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900 Global New Releases
« on: May 17, 2016, 07:14:35 PM »
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2016, 07:15:43 PM »
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2016, 07:41:13 PM »
Inception/truth are the same except for a variation to the core? Can someone please explain this to me as I'm not very tech savvy...
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2016, 07:55:43 PM »
Quote from: suhoney24 on May 17, 2016, 07:41:13 PM
Inception/truth are the same except for a variation to the core? Can someone please explain this to me as I'm not very tech savvy...

Looks like the Inception uses a dual density core that creates asymmetry
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2016, 07:57:40 PM »
The difference in the 2 cores is the Inception utilizes the Adapter/D core which is asymmetric and the Truth has the Adapter/C core which is symmetric. I have an article written by our design engineer, Nick Siefers which explains the specific differences in the two core designs. It is fairly large in size, but I will try to extract into a word document so I can cut and paste the content in a different post for everyone.
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2016, 10:59:43 PM »
Quote from: SVstar34 on May 17, 2016, 07:55:43 PM
Quote from: suhoney24 on May 17, 2016, 07:41:13 PM
Inception/truth are the same except for a variation to the core? Can someone please explain this to me as I'm not very tech savvy...

Looks like the Inception uses a dual density core that creates asymmetry

So similar to the I block that track uses....but different
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2016, 11:24:36 PM »
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2016, 11:53:48 PM »
Hmm, when will this info be on the 900 Global web site?  I don't currently see it there.
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2016, 02:55:15 PM »
I believe release dates are after bowl expo. They should go up on the website maybe next week? As for the core in the Inception & Truth. What 900 Global has done is something that has never happened before in the bowling industry. So far in the industry when going from an asymmetric core to a symmetric core, core shape changes, or core numbers change. The engineers have been able to create a brand new core in the Adaptor Core system. They have been able to change the densities in the core to not only maintain the same core shape from asymmetric to symmetric, but also keep the same core numbers aside from Intermediate Diff. So you have the Inception which is 2.48 RG, .055 Diff with .024 Intermediate Diff (Asymmetry). Then you have the Truth which is same core shape at 2.48 RG, .055 Diff with a 0.00 Intermediate Diff (Symmetric). This really is a huge step in core technology. I am very excited about this.
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2016, 03:59:52 PM »
Quote from: Curt_Dupre on May 18, 2016, 02:55:15 PM
I believe release dates are after bowl expo. They should go up on the website maybe next week? As for the core in the Inception & Truth. What 900 Global has done is something that has never happened before in the bowling industry. So far in the industry when going from an asymmetric core to a symmetric core, core shape changes, or core numbers change. The engineers have been able to create a brand new core in the Adaptor Core system. They have been able to change the densities in the core to not only maintain the same core shape from asymmetric to symmetric, but also keep the same core numbers aside from Intermediate Diff. So you have the Inception which is 2.48 RG, .055 Diff with .024 Intermediate Diff (Asymmetry). Then you have the Truth which is same core shape at 2.48 RG, .055 Diff with a 0.00 Intermediate Diff (Symmetric). This really is a huge step in core technology. I am very excited about this.

Question!!!! :)

Curt u know better than I would.  How is this different than the i-block from track?  I want to say the pursuit and pursuit-s were before the i-block as well.  U reference, "first" in the industry... however I am just joe consumer...and it reads the same to me. 

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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2016, 04:03:30 PM »
Quote from: billdozer on May 18, 2016, 03:59:52 PM
Quote from: Curt_Dupre on May 18, 2016, 02:55:15 PM
I believe release dates are after bowl expo. They should go up on the website maybe next week? As for the core in the Inception & Truth. What 900 Global has done is something that has never happened before in the bowling industry. So far in the industry when going from an asymmetric core to a symmetric core, core shape changes, or core numbers change. The engineers have been able to create a brand new core in the Adaptor Core system. They have been able to change the densities in the core to not only maintain the same core shape from asymmetric to symmetric, but also keep the same core numbers aside from Intermediate Diff. So you have the Inception which is 2.48 RG, .055 Diff with .024 Intermediate Diff (Asymmetry). Then you have the Truth which is same core shape at 2.48 RG, .055 Diff with a 0.00 Intermediate Diff (Symmetric). This really is a huge step in core technology. I am very excited about this.

Question!!!! :)

Curt u know better than I would.  How is this different than the i-block from track?  I want to say the pursuit and pursuit-s were before the i-block as well.  U reference, "first" in the industry... however I am just joe consumer...and it reads the same to me. 

Adaptor:i-Block:pursuit(-s)

Bill, it looks like the difference is how the Inception and Truth have the same rg and diff, but the Inception has an int diff as well.

The I-block for Track had different rg and diff values with the different densities
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2016, 04:19:11 PM »
Quote from: SVstar34 on May 18, 2016, 04:03:30 PM
Quote from: billdozer on May 18, 2016, 03:59:52 PM
Quote from: Curt_Dupre on May 18, 2016, 02:55:15 PM
I believe release dates are after bowl expo. They should go up on the website maybe next week? As for the core in the Inception & Truth. What 900 Global has done is something that has never happened before in the bowling industry. So far in the industry when going from an asymmetric core to a symmetric core, core shape changes, or core numbers change. The engineers have been able to create a brand new core in the Adaptor Core system. They have been able to change the densities in the core to not only maintain the same core shape from asymmetric to symmetric, but also keep the same core numbers aside from Intermediate Diff. So you have the Inception which is 2.48 RG, .055 Diff with .024 Intermediate Diff (Asymmetry). Then you have the Truth which is same core shape at 2.48 RG, .055 Diff with a 0.00 Intermediate Diff (Symmetric). This really is a huge step in core technology. I am very excited about this.

Question!!!! :)

Curt u know better than I would.  How is this different than the i-block from track?  I want to say the pursuit and pursuit-s were before the i-block as well.  U reference, "first" in the industry... however I am just joe consumer...and it reads the same to me. 

Adaptor:i-Block:pursuit(-s)

Bill, it looks like the difference is how the Inception and Truth have the same rg and diff, but the Inception has an int diff as well.

The I-block for Track had different rg and diff values with the different densities

Gotchya.  I'm super busy and I can can't compare the track stuff and the 900 stuff at the moment. Makes sense!

I was only asking cause the shape of the track stuff still looks the same as well between the symmetrical and assym.

Seems to be the trend to do this one way or another.  Radical kinda has the same idea too! With the rediculous.
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2016, 04:27:04 PM »
Quote from: billdozer on May 18, 2016, 03:59:52 PM
Question!!!! :)

Curt u know better than I would.  How is this different than the i-block from track?  I want to say the pursuit and pursuit-s were before the i-block as well.  U reference, "first" in the industry... however I am just joe consumer...and it reads the same to me. 

Adaptor:i-Block:pursuit(-s)


Looking at the Pursuit and Pursuit S, both utilize the same core shape, but the numbers between the two are different. Also, the int diff on the Pursuit is .008. I believe technically anything under .009 on int diff was still symmetric or at the very least didn't have to be listed as asymmetric. So to have the same cores and one is symmetric and the other asymmetric with the same RG and diff, that's pretty cool. Just my 2 cents.
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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2016, 05:09:12 PM »
Thanks for he info! People will ask me for the scoop, more than the local PSO's out of our 4 centers...so I wanted some thoughts on the balls, and how they are different from the other companies claiming to be doing the same thing as well...

Now we know it truly is unique, and is more unique than the competition. 

Whoever is doing thing stuff is smart! The Bank was awesome as well, I remember the demonstration and speech about the core at ball expo, from Dave smart, gotta love it when someone puts their"all" into core design!
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Re: 900 Global New Releases
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2016, 05:23:46 PM »
Question. Why would anyone buy 2 balls with the same cover and finish as well as core numbers, but 1 with asymmetry and the other without? You can have 400 in both or buy a Difference for $350! Sorry, I had too  ;D
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