Equipment Boards => 900 Global => Topic started by: tdub36tjt on January 21, 2012, 01:46:12 PM
Title: Anyone polish a Train?
Post by: tdub36tjt on January 21, 2012, 01:46:12 PM
I am thinking I am gonna drill a 2nd Train since I like it a lot. I am thinking using a similar layout and polishing it. I am wondering if anyone used the ball OOB and then polished it and how much difference it made in length and overall boards covered. I am thinking a polished one with the same layout would be a perfect step down when the heads start to go. I am just worried that it could be one of those balls that covers a lot of boards when polished in the back so much that it would defeat the purpose of what I'm planning. So I can't decide if I should go similar layout or go with a weaker layout.
Title: Re: Anyone polish a Train?
Post by: Hoselrockets on January 21, 2012, 09:47:10 PM
Glad to hear you like it...
THB
Title: Re: Anyone polish a Train?
Post by: tdub36tjt on January 21, 2012, 09:58:19 PM
I'm really liking it. Front 9 2nd game with it last night hung up a little in the thumb and left a 2 pin (279). It's just too much to get me through the 3rd game... I'm definitely drilling another one this week just gotta decide on how strong to drill it. Was thinking just go with a 5" pin to PAP instead of 4.5 and polish it but I don't want it to get too sideways downlane.
Title: Re: Anyone polish a Train?
Post by: Gunny on January 21, 2012, 10:36:07 PM
tdub, I'm fixing to drill me a 2nd one with the same layout, and adding polish. Loving the Train right now. First four sets so far are...677, 691, 658 and 694. Ball is very predictable, but strong throughout. A lot of moving left with this piece. If I get mine punched up before you, I'll let you know how it rolls.
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Title: Re: Anyone polish a Train?
Post by: tdub36tjt on January 22, 2012, 09:53:57 AM
Ok, thanks Gunny. I'll probably drill mine Monday. I think I am gonna go with Rough Buff instead of polish to start I think it will keep it a touch smoother downlane. If that's too much I'll go to polish....Won't really know how it does when the heads start to go til Friday though probably. My Tuesday league will give me an idea but the transition doesn't usually happen til 3rd game and it isn't as drastic as Friday unless we are bowling a team with a lot of hand.
Title: Re: Anyone polish a Train?
Post by: charlest on January 22, 2012, 12:32:36 PM
tbub36tit,
Virtually every ball I've ever tried this with (polishing the sanded version) will save its energy for the backend and anything the sanded version uses to start hooking in the midlane, will transfer that energy to hook at the backend. Some become uncontrollably flippy. A few retain their breakpoint shape.
If you want a similar hook shape, you really do have to change at least 2 of the 3 drilling factors, pin distance, Val and Drill angle. I'd suggest at least a higher VAL angle to reduce the snap and either a shorter pin distance to reduce the flare or a smaller Drill angle to decrease the length.
Title: Re: Anyone polish a Train?
Post by: tdub36tjt on January 22, 2012, 01:29:03 PM
Well its symmetrical so drilling angle is meaningless. But are you thinking like a 60*x2.5"x50* polished then???
Title: Re: Anyone polish a Train?
Post by: charlest on January 22, 2012, 08:34:50 PM
Sorry, I forgot it was symmetric. ALl of 900Global's premium balls had been asymmtric.
Since it is symmetric, a longer pin-PAP woudl result in less flare and go longer, vs an asymmetric's shorter pin and larger Drill angle.
I don't know how your original was drilled.but I'm not a driller. You should really consult with your driller about the adjust to make to reduce extreme flippiness in a polished version of this ball. It's much easier and probably more accurate for him to do it since he is or can watch you bowl.
Title: Re: Anyone polish a Train?
Post by: bass on January 22, 2012, 09:26:54 PM
I just drilled mine up.
Threw some Storm step 1 polish on it first.
Ball seemed to fuzzy out of the box.
Granted I only have 6 shots on the ball.
All I can say is WOW.
This ball comes off the pattern and makes its move to the pocket.
Definitely will be interesting to see it on some decent oil.
Almost all things are better when they come from Texas.Except maybe the USBC. LOL
Title: Re: Anyone polish a Train?
Post by: jimensminger on January 23, 2012, 08:01:43 AM
Mine is polished, too much dull for me outta the box, I went over the OOB with some
liquid rubbing compound (my favorite polish), got it nice and shiny, great ball. jime
Jim Ensminger www.900global.com There's FIRST, then everyone else.
Title: Re: Anyone polish a Train?
Post by: tdub36tjt on January 23, 2012, 06:52:18 PM
Drilled the 2nd one today. Went with a 5.5" pin (4.5" on the first Train) and hit it rough buff before I drilled it.I threw one game with it afterI drilled it on the burn from league and a little bit of open bowling. Wasn't scorched but was fairly dry. Only one game so I don't know a lot about it but I think this is gonna be what I was looking for. Once the first one starts hooking early I think I will be able to just switch to this one and stay in the same spot. It was 4 and 2 less overall. I found it to be a little cleaner and it seemed to have a similar but slightly stronger backend reaction. I was standing on 32 hitting 20 at the arrows to about 6 at the break point with the 2nd Train....I will post pictures of them tomorrow and will report back when I get some more time in league with the 2nd one....
Title: Re: Anyone polish a Train?
Post by: tdub36tjt on January 24, 2012, 10:26:37 AM
Here are pictures of my Trains. The one on the left is the polished one. The OOB one on the right has about 12 games on it and as you can see has a little lane shine.
Title: Re: Anyone polish a Train?
Post by: Impending Doom on January 24, 2012, 11:09:55 AM
Man, I cannot WAIT to get my train punched up! You guys are killing me! Between my train, hook, and black eagle I have on the way, I'm going to need more bags, and maybe new shocks for my car!
Can anyone compare the ball motion to anything else in the global.or amf lines?
Title: Re: Anyone polish a Train?
Post by: tdub36tjt on January 24, 2012, 11:15:37 AM
The closest ball for me is probably the Break s75 with a little more continuation downlane....I have a Break s75 with like 15 games on it I was throwing before I got the Train and the Break s75 hasn't came out the bag since....
Edited by tdub36tjt on 1/24/2012 at 12:16 PM
Title: Re: Anyone polish a Train?
Post by: Impending Doom on January 24, 2012, 11:25:45 AM
Title: Re: Anyone polish a Train?
Post by: Tex on February 20, 2012, 10:10:55 AM
Really had my first opportunity to use my Train this past weekend in Wichita at the Southwest Tournament. I had adjusted mine to the A surface based on reaction in my home center from some practice and limited league use. In team I changed to the Train late in the first game but begin to find a groove with it by the third game. Enough I started with it in Doubles and opened the day up with a 289. While the shot was changing pretty quick since we were on overlaid leftovers still stayed consistent with a 216 &210 to finish but made a bad shot late in each game. Had to change to a T surfaced Bank Roll the next set since by then we were playing deeper and I needed a cleaner look through the mid lane. I drilled my Train with the pin at about 4 1/2" from PAP, just above and to the right of my ring finger and CG at 4". This is a drill I haven't used in a while but have had great results in tourments with in the past on symetrical cores.
Can't complain about the way this ball carries. Even other guys were asking what I was throwing since it was hitting so hard. I think it is really easy to read the ball reaction on this one. Very smooth and predictable with its move. I imagine I will also add one of these to the bag for Nationals with the pin down in my favorite drill. This ball has earned its spot next to my Break Out as one of the top 900 balls I own. I have two Eagles I rolled at Nationals last year and a third I will drill with a modified Rico that will go along to Baton Rouge as well if things are anything like 2011.
Roll with 900 Global.
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Edited by Tex on 2/20/2012 at 11:12 AM
Title: Re: Anyone polish a Train?
Post by: CRSmith on March 19, 2012, 08:53:22 PM
Been thinking of polishing mine as well, or at least go to the "A" grit pad. Mine checked up really early in league last week. Its never a good thing when the ball turns left just past the arrows. There are no crisp backends, though. So I'm afraid if I shine it up, I'll have something that constantly hangs ten pins since it doesn't want to finish. But I feel like a dull ball burns up so early for me, and I hang ten pins there as well. Never liked my Solaris Requiem dull. Will an "A" or "T" pad help retain enough energy to kick out a ten pin?
Title: Re: Anyone polish a Train?
Post by: 42swaff on March 20, 2012, 12:00:51 AM
i have 2 trains one at oob
and the other with a T pad
big difference and the carry is
off the charts i dont think id polish
it for it cover up the pores,, try a T pad
and if its still to much try an eagle
just my 2 cents worth
jeff
Title: Re: Anyone polish a Train?
Post by: Hoselrockets on March 20, 2012, 12:08:05 AM
Have my 6" pin from axis at A pad and love it.
THB
Title: Re: Anyone polish a Train?
Post by: tdub36tjt on March 20, 2012, 01:41:15 PM
I really like both of mine. This cover is really high maintenance for me which is a pain in the butt. Had the same issues with the Bank Roll. I need to bring it down to 360 grit and back up every 20 games or so. But my 2nd one I hit with rough buff and it is much cleaner through the fronts and has a pretty similar backend reaction.