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Geigs

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Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« on: February 12, 2019, 07:13:28 PM »
Have a faithful black ops drilled weakish, 5 1/2x 5x3. I keep it at 1000 and use it for my heavy oil, volume ball. Had good success with it at nationals, bj’s in Syracuse. Well it has a ton of games now. Was thinking of putting it on my spinner and resurfacing it to oob finish and using it for mediums,  and house shot. Want to get a new, fresh black ops (great deals online for black ops around $100). Was thinking of going a little stronger with the drilling, say 4x4x2 with same 1000 surface for heavy oil just like current one. Do you think it will be too strong, I definitely don’t want it to puke out. What are your experiences with the ops, break core with strong drilling’s for oil? Here are my specs! Pap 5 3/8 over up 7/8. Tilt 16 degrees. Rev rate 320. Ball speed 14 mph. These specs are from the powerhouse bowler I’d test. Appreciate your global 900 expert opinion.
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Impending Doom

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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2019, 07:48:00 PM »
Quote from: Geigs on February 12, 2019, 07:13:28 PM
Have a faithful black ops drilled weakish, 5 1/2x 5x3. I keep it at 1000 and use it for my heavy oil, volume ball. Had good success with it at nationals, bj’s in Syracuse. Well it has a ton of games now. Was thinking of putting it on my spinner and resurfacing it to oob finish and using it for mediums,  and house shot. Want to get a new, fresh black ops (great deals online for black ops around $100). Was thinking of going a little stronger with the drilling, say 4x4x2 with same 1000 surface for heavy oil just like current one. Do you think it will be too strong, I definitely don’t want it to puke out. What are your experiences with the ops, break core with strong drilling’s for oil? Here are my specs! Pap 5 3/8 over up 7/8. Tilt 16 degrees. Rev rate 320. Ball speed 14 mph. These specs are from the powerhouse bowler I’d test. Appreciate your global 900 expert opinion.

Ok, had to refer to my dual angle to storm layout conversion chart.

I like the layout for heavier oil (prepare for flare!) and surface prep is good too. I'd normally let the user know that pin ups (in my experience) can be incredibly torquey down lane, but the 1k will smooth that out. I dig it!
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Geigs

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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2019, 08:20:27 PM »
Thanks for the quick response doom. Not so concerned about the angularity. My 5 1/2 inch pin one is real smooth with it at 1000. I was just concerned about the stronger drill with more flare burning up with my slower speed. I’ve heard that moving the pin close to the Val in a strong asymmetrical ball will make the ball continue more through the pins, along with more flare. I find that interesting. Don’t know if anyone has experienced this. Appreciate the help doom. Going to order my second black ops. What the hell, for $100 bucks you can’t go wrong.  I was looking at the radical conspiracy as well. Almost looks like same core as the breaks. And ball gets good reviews. But I already know what the black ops is for me, and I lIke it. Plus it’s a better value for the buck. Best value in bowling as far as I’m concerned.
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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2019, 11:14:04 PM »
Well, remember that even though S70 is strong, it's not pukey strong. I think you're going to love it!
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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2019, 11:38:06 PM »
I'm not doom, but A buddy loves his Black ops with a 4x4x2, that's typically my strong assym layout..

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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2019, 03:38:45 PM »
Thanks billdozer.. I not only value doom’s expertise, but all of your opinions on this site. Very informative. Done deal, ordering my black ops from buddies pro shop tonight. $109.95. Free shipping. Great price, for a great piece, how can you go wrong? Like I said earlier, ops series has to be the best bang for the buck in bowling. Just my opinion.
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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2019, 06:30:10 PM »
Quote from: Geigs on February 13, 2019, 03:38:45 PM
Thanks billdozer.. I not only value doom’s expertise, but all of your opinions on this site. Very informative. Done deal, ordering my black ops from buddies pro shop tonight. $109.95. Free shipping. Great price, for a great piece, how can you go wrong? Like I said earlier, ops series has to be the best bang for the buck in bowling. Just my opinion.

Hear Hear!  :)
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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2019, 11:12:13 AM »
Just out of curiousity, Doom recommended the Honey Badger and it works great for me. What is a strength comparison for the black ops from another brand. Are we talking Jackal Ghost, Idol, Crux prime.
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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2019, 12:25:10 PM »
All surfaces being the same, Black Ops is comparable to the Code Black or Conspiracy, motion wise.
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Geigs

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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2019, 02:48:48 PM »
I have all three. Conspiracy is a little more angular and a touch stronger overall. Black ops and code black are close if you hit the code black with some surface. I’ve found the black ops to be more versatile and takes to surface adjustments best of the three.
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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2019, 02:59:25 PM »
How does the Tactical Ops compare to the Black Ops or Code Black?
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Impending Doom

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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2019, 03:13:00 PM »
Quote from: thundercat23 on April 11, 2019, 02:59:25 PM
How does the Tactical Ops compare to the Black Ops or Code Black?

Tactical will be a bit stronger, but I'd stick with a Black Ops with surface. There's something about the Tactical that doesn't please me.
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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2019, 10:42:10 PM »
Quote from: Impending Doom on April 11, 2019, 03:13:00 PM
Quote from: thundercat23 on April 11, 2019, 02:59:25 PM
How does the Tactical Ops compare to the Black Ops or Code Black?

Tactical will be a bit stronger, but I'd stick with a Black Ops with surface. There's something about the Tactical that doesn't please me.

A Break core ball that doesn’t please Doom...  :o
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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2019, 11:45:39 PM »
Quote from: AlonzoHarris on April 11, 2019, 10:42:10 PM
Quote from: Impending Doom on April 11, 2019, 03:13:00 PM
Quote from: thundercat23 on April 11, 2019, 02:59:25 PM
How does the Tactical Ops compare to the Black Ops or Code Black?

Tactical will be a bit stronger, but I'd stick with a Black Ops with surface. There's something about the Tactical that doesn't please me.

A Break core ball that doesn’t please Doom...  :o

You know, I'm all about that core. But something about that cover makes it very forward off the spot. I love the idea of a pearl Break, but I think the cover is too strong for it's intended use. 10 times.out of 10 I'll take a Black Ops over that kind of reaction.
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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2019, 08:09:02 AM »
So, if I want my Black Ops to be like my Code Black, I should use the same layout?
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