Author Topic: Break Pearl Review (Read 7609 times)

Mark T. Trgovac · « **on:** September 18, 2008, 04:05:51 PM »

Hey guys just wanted to say that I got enough games on it to give a review. The link is posted below, read it and PM if you have any other questions. Also please no troll pm's, only people who have real questions or want to know anything more indepth as to lines and angles I have played.

http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ManufacterID=25&BallID=880&ReviewID=29908
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Sjf · « **Reply #31 on:** September 20, 2008, 10:41:04 PM »

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and that has relevance where in this thread? idk how the rising came up. and how does 900 being overlooked a dig? so i guess saying that the street rod was overlooked but its really good is a dig? not at all. it doesn't have to do with not being on-line, its just saying that its not well-known and because its not the BIG 4, its not bought as much, which could be a VERY good thing in the end.
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their OTHER BRANDS ball.

Well he said the Break Pearl was being overlooked, so how does that apply to this thread. It was suppposed to be a review on how he felt the ball performed on the lanes. According to you, this thread should only be about the performance of the ball. Therefore his comment about the ball being overlooked, should not have been made. And all jls did was point out that around here the ball is performing well and is not overlooked. The overlooked comment came from the poster of this thread. he brought it up, so why don't you get all over his butt about staying on topic. And you sign line clearly says flat 10 with Brunswick, so again it appears that you were also knocking a ball company. You see, some of us don't know about your private jokes.
It does not look funny to me, it looks like you don't like Brunswick and are a Track lover. Read your sign, it's all there. Got to go, cause I starting to feel that talking to you is like talking to the wall.

Edited on 9/20/2008 10:42 PM

NJStroker · « **Reply #32 on:** September 20, 2008, 10:42:38 PM »

Slf, sry for the confusion, i meant the comment about the rising stuff, i didn't see the point about that in the thread.
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their OTHER BRANDS ball.

Mark T. Trgovac · « **Reply #33 on:** September 20, 2008, 11:19:36 PM »

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and that has relevance where in this thread? idk how the rising came up. and how does 900 being overlooked a dig? so i guess saying that the street rod was overlooked but its really good is a dig? not at all. it doesn't have to do with not being on-line, its just saying that its not well-known and because its not the BIG 4, its not bought as much, which could be a VERY good thing in the end.
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their OTHER BRANDS ball.

Well he said the Break Pearl was being overlooked, so how does that apply to this thread. It was suppposed to be a review on how he felt the ball performed on the lanes. According to you, this thread should only be about the performance of the ball. Therefore his comment about the ball being overlooked, should not have been made. And all jls did was point out that around here the ball is performing well and is not overlooked. The overlooked comment came from the poster of this thread. he brought it up, so why don't you get all over his butt about staying on topic. And you sign line clearly says flat 10 with Brunswick, so again it appears that you were also knocking a ball company. You see, some of us don't know about your private jokes.
It does not look funny to me, it looks like you don't like Brunswick and are a Track lover. Read your sign, it's all there. Got to go, cause I starting to feel that talking to you is like talking to the wall.

Edited on 9/20/2008 10:42 PM

The overlooked statement was in my review, and I said it was a bad thing because this ball is awsome. With me saying it was overlooked was from the trade shows I attended. I was at both the Ace Mitchell (ohio) trade show, and the Classic corp. (Indianna) shows. When Eric Thomas there sales rep asks who here has heard of us and the rooms hands go up and then he says ok whos selling us, and the hands drop from a room of over 100 up to less then double digits that says that people are being lead to overlook the equipment. I watched the same thing happen at classic because I didnt sit in on the storm demo, or the on the ball bowling demo, I watched Eric with his 900 demo. I am in personal contact with Eric. I love there stuff, and other then one other Break pearl in our area last year, they all came from us.
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MC · « **Reply #34 on:** September 22, 2008, 11:14:07 AM »

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With so many better bowlers using 900global's shoes, I find it hard to believe that someone in the PBA has never heard of some of their balls. Around here I see plenty of them in use.

He does not use their shoes either. But I agree I was very surprised that he had never seen one.
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jls · « **Reply #35 on:** September 22, 2008, 11:38:56 AM »

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With so many better bowlers using 900global's shoes, I find it hard to believe that someone in the PBA has never heard of some of their balls. Around here I see plenty of them in use.

He does not use their shoes either. But I agree I was very surprised that he had never seen one.
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MC, for a new company that is a little over a year old, I think they are doing just fine. Sure they may not be in every pro shop. There are a few brands I don't stock anymore. And they have been around for years. And every day more and more of the other ball companies are finding out that more and more shops are starting to wake up and drink the coffee and start selling a ball that they can make a small profit on, as opposed to balls footballed online. And they don't like that!!!!!

Now I can understand Mr & Mrs every other Sat. nite mixed league, not knowing about Global. But a PBA player!!!

Overlooked, I don't think so. I have 5 Global balls on my rack. Ask me, go ahead and ask me how many "not so called overlooked" Track balls I have on the rack. That would be ONE, the Tantrum. Why, ask me why, Cause global balls are selling, and in my area, Track is not. That is why.

imo, there are two types of pro shops. Those that sell a quality product like Global, and those that choose not to.

But they are not overlooked, by people that know what they are doing!!!

Have a good day MC, and thanks for posting.
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MC · « **Reply #36 on:** September 22, 2008, 12:35:34 PM »

jls,
Not trying to beat a dead horse, but

Again, I think that they are a great company and will do/are doing just fine. The arguement of overlooked or not is completely based of where you live and bowl. Here in Central Illinois, a lot of the bowlers have no idea who Global is. I think that they will, but for now they get overlooked because no body around here carries them. Some will order them but you have to ask. FYI Track does not sell here either. Only a couple more of them than Global. Here it is basically Storm, Hammer, Brunswick, then LaneMasters and Visionary.

Maybe the difference in your view and mine is pro shop view vs. a bowlers view?
No arguement intended, I think we are saying the same thing: Global is good and tbe Break Pearl is a good if not great ball, and the review was pretty accurate (even though a bit tardy

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jls · « **Reply #37 on:** September 22, 2008, 02:10:23 PM »

Nothing remains, I see you did not seem to get upset with his remark about the ball being overlooked. However if someone else make a statement and feels that this ball is not overlooked, but that some new Track models sure seem to be, then you go postal. Lane 1 or Big B, give it a rest.

Like I said, two types of pro shops, those selling Global and those who choose not too.

are we clear
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jls · « **Reply #38 on:** September 22, 2008, 02:17:17 PM »

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jls,
Not trying to beat a dead horse, but Again, I think that they are a great company and will do/are doing just fine. The arguement of overlooked or not is completely based of where you live and bowl. Here in Central Illinois, a lot of the bowlers have no idea who Global is. I think that they will, but for now they get overlooked because no body around here carries them. Some will order them but you have to ask. FYI Track does not sell here either. Only a couple more of them than Global. Here it is basically Storm, Hammer, Brunswick, then LaneMasters and Visionary.

Maybe the difference in your view and mine is pro shop view vs. a bowlers view?
No arguement intended, I think we are saying the same thing: Global is good and tbe Break Pearl is a good if not great ball, and the review was pretty accurate (even though a bit tardy )
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Agreed, His review was fine. I personally thought it was a little late, but he did explain that. However I don't agree with the overlooked comment. As for timing on reviews. If they come from "Joe Bowler" that is different. Not everyone buys a new ball the day they come out. However when a pro shop reviews a ball, many times it is done either before or early in the new ball's release. A customer might buy a new ball 4-6 months after it's release and post his review on it. But pro shops usually like to post early, it helps sell the ball.

MC nice to talk to you. People like Nothing, are just that, nothing.
have a good day
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NJStroker · « **Reply #39 on:** September 22, 2008, 05:02:47 PM »

hey jls, the reason they get the track stuff early is because the owner of the shop WORKS FOR TRACK
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their OTHER BRANDS ball.

jls · « **Reply #40 on:** September 22, 2008, 06:37:27 PM »

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hey jls, the reason they get the track stuff early is because the owner of the shop WORKS FOR TRACK
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their OTHER BRANDS ball.

I know, I know, And that is why I took exception over that " overlooked "
comment he made. To me that was a dig. Yes he wrote a nice review, but then made it look like no one on earth ever heard of Global.

And if one should go back and read some of their reviews from last year on some Track balls, one would see, much like Kramer, "they were way off"

So please excuse me if I don't think they are the gospel according to Luke. Just ask some pro shops who still have Rising's sitting on their shelf collecting dust.

Just talked to a major dist. sales rep. The Uprising is not doing well!!!

Why, kinda sorta thinking it has a lot to do with some recommended drillings that were used on the Rising. That left a bad taste in many pro shops mouths.

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Edited on 9/23/2008 12:28 PM

NJStroker · « **Reply #41 on:** September 22, 2008, 06:54:33 PM »

so maybe the rising worked really good for mark, maybe he matched up really good to them, so i guess saying that the street rods from storm are overlooked is a dig to storm, or the vibes from hammer are overlooked thats a dig to hammer, or the whole visionary line is overlooked, i guess thats a dig also.
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their OTHER BRANDS ball.

Sjf · « **Reply #42 on:** September 22, 2008, 08:22:41 PM »

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Personally, I don't put much belief or confidence in any of Scoot's posts, much less a review of his. He can't seem to think for himself so he piggybacks on other peoples post, saying that is what he said, which most of the time is arbitrary to his original post. I am sure he means well but his reviews are all biased and he rates them all 9.7 + most of the time. I don't think he represents Track and who ever that is on staff that he works with very well. He doesn't seem to have the knowledge or expertise to be giving the advice he has given since I started lurking on here. Hell I saw him argue with a Brunswick rep who has been on staff longer than this kid has probably been alive. Just my opinion and it may sound cruel and blunt, but I think it needed to be addressed. He just doesn't have the smarts or the qualifications to be giving out the advice or reviews he has given.

Pocketking
If i did know better, I would have thought JLS wrote this. Biased, I like that. I think you hit the hammer on the nail with that line. I think what JLS was trying to say. These guys talk up Track, yet come on and give a review here, then toss in that remark, "overlooked" to make it look like Global is not selling well, when the truth is, Track's sales in our area are slow. Global is doing just fine.
And like JLS said, they painted the Rising as the next coming of the big guy. There was much debate on the drilling and pins and top weight on the Rising. This pro shop went all out and said they would work. But many bowlers in our area were disappointed in the performance of the ball in oil, ok on the dry.
So I agree with this post. I don't put much into what they have to say either.
JLS posted that if a customer wrote a review 6-9 months later, he has no problem with that. For most customer's don't always buy the ball the first day it is released. However, pro shops usually try to post a review very early in the release of a ball. I thought it was odd to see a pro shop review a ball so late. And then of course toss in "overlooked"

Biased

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Sjf · « **Reply #43 on:** September 22, 2008, 08:24:00 PM »

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Personally, I don't put much belief or confidence in any of Scoot's posts, much less a review of his. He can't seem to think for himself so he piggybacks on other peoples post, saying that is what he said, which most of the time is arbitrary to his original post. I am sure he means well but his reviews are all biased and he rates them all 9.7 + most of the time. I don't think he represents Track and who ever that is on staff that he works with very well. He doesn't seem to have the knowledge or expertise to be giving the advice he has given since I started lurking on here. Hell I saw him argue with a Brunswick rep who has been on staff longer than this kid has probably been alive. Just my opinion and it may sound cruel and blunt, but I think it needed to be addressed. He just doesn't have the smarts or the qualifications to be giving out the advice or reviews he has given.

Pocketking, I hope your post does not get deleted. I noticed that a couple that were negative did.

Mark T. Trgovac · « **Reply #44 on:** September 23, 2008, 01:21:43 AM »

Um just because I am in a proshop doesnt mean I have first hand ability to get a ball when it comes out. I didnt get my hands on this ball till the end of last season, and by the end of the season I mean the leagues I bowled in were over. Now, for me saying that the ball was overlooked is based off what I seen at trade shows, and the people in my area that have the equipment. I am in no way knocking 900, I like there equipment. If I didnt, I wouldnt have the Break Pearl, or the Break, the Creature Pearl, the Link in transit to me or the 3 ball tote. As for what we sold in the shop last year, our top seller was not anything from track. If it was anything it was the Jazz. If I had to make a bet as to what we sold most I would say the Jazz.

To say that the word overlooked the way I said it was a dig is wrong. The fact is, I used it based off what I see in my area and in my area it is overlooked when I am talking about the overall ball sales in my area. Last year in my area, the balls that sold were Cherry vibes. Mostly becasue we have a hammer staffer who everyone knows and they ask him what they should get. Last year he said cherry vibe, so everyone he told got one. Outside of the people who got 900 stuff from our shop last year, nobody els knew about them until three of them did well after getting them. Then after that I seen one other guy get a 900 ball. If you ask me that blew because I like the 900 stuff.

As for being bias to a company. Well as a bowler I am for myself only, when someone comes into the shop and asks me for a good ball, I dont point to one ball and say here is what you want. I give them options from every company that has a ball in the price point with the look on the lane they want. For myself I am because like I said even though I work in a shop, it doesnt mean I can just grab a ball off the wall or out the back and drill it. I have still have to pay for the ball, and I have more important things to pay for then a ball. However when I get that extra money I do tend to set it aside for something.
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