My original Badger is a skid flip monster and carries way better for my style than the HyRoad which rolls perfect, but leaves back row pins more than any ball I've ever thrown. I am thinking about pulling the trigger on another Badger. I'm going to put an old school label leverage on it 3 3/8 pin to PAP, next to ring finger. I would love to see an earlier motion that I can play right of 15, rather than opening up my launch angles so steep with my 5 1/2" pin high Badger.