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Global900Guy

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Bank Roll first impressions
« on: September 28, 2011, 11:04:52 PM »
 

I just punched up my new Bank Roll and gave it some shots on a light to medium THS (I know… wrong condition ), and I wanted to share my first impressions. A full review will follow as soon as I found enough oil to keep this beast on the lanes.

 

My Bank Roll arrived with a 4-4.5” Pin with 3 1/8 oz. top weight. I drilled it 55 X 5” X 30. This placed the Pin about an inch above my ring finger and he MB right next to the thumb hole on the right. A weight hole wasn’t necessary. I also added a nice coat of Black Magic to the surface right out of the box.

 

What I was looking for in this ball, was more skid than my original Bank with a sharper breakpoint but just as strong overall.

 

All I can say for now is “Mission Accomplished!”

 

On the light to medium THS I just bowled on, the ball got clean through the heads, had a impressive midlane read, but had more than enough energy to unleash in the back end with a strong arc to flip reaction. Needles to say, that on this condition the ball hooked 5 to 7 feet too soon and even the deepest lines and weakest hand positions were not enough to create enough length on this pattern.

 

Next week I am going to bowl on some sport patterns and on a medium to heavy THS, to see what this ball does on the conditions it was meant for.

 


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Edited by Global900Guy on 29.09.2011 at 7:06 AM
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tdub36tjt

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Re: Bank Roll first impressions
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2011, 05:53:09 PM »
Wish mine did that. I can only use mine on scorched lanes or it never reads the lane. It has a layout very close to my Bank and my Bank is at least 10 and 7 stronger. It would be fine if it read the lane consistently but one time it will read great and be 10 back and the next time it never reads the lane and its a bucket. I was very unimpressed with mine....Can't win them all...Only thing I ever found with the ball was polishing it and playing 10 to 5 and then it seemed to be a little better. 

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Re: Bank Roll first impressions
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2011, 07:39:21 PM »
I live in Michigan and I would love to see a Bank Roll only work on scorched lanes....this ball goes check to check with a Nano all day long.
 
tdub36tjt wrote on 9/29/2011 5:53 PM:Wish mine did that. I can only use mine on scorched lanes or it never reads the lane. It has a layout very close to my Bank and my Bank is at least 10 and 7 stronger. It would be fine if it read the lane consistently but one time it will read great and be 10 back and the next time it never reads the lane and its a bucket. I was very unimpressed with mine....Can't win them all...Only thing I ever found with the ball was polishing it and playing 10 to 5 and then it seemed to be a little better. 



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tdub36tjt

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Re: Bank Roll first impressions
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2011, 10:02:54 PM »
I figured that it would be a Nano strength like ball when I drilled it as well....I loved the Bank and the Bank Pearl so I was amazed at how straight the ball is. I am not bashing 900 Global, just mine is a dart...I really wonder if the mb is mismarked or something??  Numerous people have thrown mine and it just doesn't hook much. I can get it to hook if I hit it with a 500 pad, but that only lasts maybe a half a game. It just doesn't backend much with surface and goes really long with polish. Just a really controllable weak reaction I get with it, which works well on the toast...

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Global900Guy

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Re: Bank Roll first impressions
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2011, 03:18:31 AM »

 I can´t imagine that a mismarked MB could completely kill the reaction of a ball that is this strong!
 
I would think, that there went something wrong with the chemistry of the coverstock on your ball. I´ve seen something like that once on a original Cell wich didnt hook at all and every grit you tried to put on it was gone within a game or two.
tdub36tjt wrote on 29.09.2011 10:02 PM:I figured that it would be a Nano strength like ball when I drilled it as well....I loved the Bank and the Bank Pearl so I was amazed at how straight the ball is. I am not bashing 900 Global, just mine is a dart...I really wonder if the mb is mismarked or something??  Numerous people have thrown mine and it just doesn't hook much. I can get it to hook if I hit it with a 500 pad, but that only lasts maybe a half a game. It just doesn't backend much with surface and goes really long with polish. Just a really controllable weak reaction I get with it, which works well on the toast...



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Edited by Global900Guy on 30.09.2011 at 3:19 AM
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tdub36tjt

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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2011, 12:09:03 PM »
Very possible that I just got a dud...I was really confused because the Bank rolls so good. I can honestly say that the Bank and Bank Pearl are both top 10 balls I have ever had so for a ball with the same core and a hybrid cover to be so much different never added up to me....

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Hoselrockets

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Re: Bank Roll first impressions
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2011, 09:12:30 AM »
What type of drill did you put on your Bank Roll?
 
tdub36tjt wrote on 9/29/2011 10:02 PM:I figured that it would be a Nano strength like ball when I drilled it as well....I loved the Bank and the Bank Pearl so I was amazed at how straight the ball is. I am not bashing 900 Global, just mine is a dart...I really wonder if the mb is mismarked or something??  Numerous people have thrown mine and it just doesn't hook much. I can get it to hook if I hit it with a 500 pad, but that only lasts maybe a half a game. It just doesn't backend much with surface and goes really long with polish. Just a really controllable weak reaction I get with it, which works well on the toast...



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hckyenginr

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Re: Bank Roll first impressions
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2011, 09:35:05 AM »
From my personal experience, the BR is great. Mine moves really well and I have a teammate who has one as well and gets the same reaction. One thing I will say, is that I had a teammate over the summer who got one the same week I did (about 10 weeks into summer league) and it has lost all reaction. Just slides down the lane. He took the surface down and it was the same weird weak reaction. Now he has it polished up and its a weak ball that he uses for fried conditions. He figured it would hit decent polished but it hits like mush. So it seems there are a few people having some reaction problems out there..
 
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Re: Bank Roll first impressions
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2011, 09:36:28 AM »
60* x 3.75" x 30*
 
And I could definitely see a miss-marked MB totally killing a ball....The MB placement on a asymm is very important to the layout.... 
 
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Re: Bank Roll first impressions
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2011, 05:30:43 AM »
My BreakPoint did the same thing when I first drilled it. I put it down for about a month and it's been a monster ever since - until it cracked a couple of weeks ago.  I was thinking about picking up a Bank Roll as a replacement to compliment my Bank Pearl and Raw Profit.  I'd be interested to hear if anyone else is having these kind of issues.

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Global900Guy

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Re: Bank Roll first impressions
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2011, 04:20:24 PM »
Hey,
 
shure the MB in the wrong position can do some funny things to the ballreaction! But it won´t transform a super agressive ball into a dart!  The coverstock and the surface prep are just way to strong, if the coverstock did pour as intended.
 
Even though I doubt your problem depends on the core or your layout, lets talk about it.
Looking at your layout, you should see A LOT of trackflare! If there is no trackflare there is probably something wrong with the core.
 
Is the CG swung way out of the Pin - MB line to the left(or to the right if you are left handed)? If not, you would probably need an x-hole. Where is it drilled?
tdub36tjt wrote on 01.10.2011 9:36 AM:
60* x 3.75" x 30*
 
And I could definitely see a miss-marked MB totally killing a ball....The MB placement on a asymm is very important to the layout.... 
 
Edited by tdub36tjt on 10/1/2011 at 9:38 AM


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tdub36tjt

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Re: Bank Roll first impressions
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2011, 07:19:39 AM »
Yeah I am getting track flare. Not sure exact numbers but by looking at it, it seems I am getting at least like 5" of flare. I started without a weight hole and then after watching it roll me and the other guy in the shop kind of had a disagreement about where to put the weight hole I was thinking p1 to try and kill flare and he suggested p4...He has been doing it longer so I listened to him while compromising and doing a p3.  Don't think it really made a difference. As for surfaces I have tried 500, 1000, 2000, 4000, 500 light coat of polish by hand, 500 polish, 2000 polish, and 4000 polish....Like I said the 500 rolls good for about 6 frames. The 500 polished is the next best but it forces me further right than most balls do at that surface and either way every once and a while it just ends up being a bucket. I am able to get lined up at all the surfaces and would deal with it not being much hook if it was consistent, its just not. I have pretty much just cut my loses on it....Just so you know my Bank is drilled 65* x 3.75" x  25* and it rolls great. The Bank Pearl is drilled 60* x 4.25" x 30 p4 and rolls awesome as well. They both are worlds stronger and more consistent than my Bank Roll. I was thinking if the mb was miss-marked somehow and the real layout ended up being 10* x 3.75 x 30* or something that would explain why it rolls so bad for me....

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Re: Bank Roll first impressions
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2011, 09:19:19 AM »
tdub

  you should really get ahold of "eric t" at 900/global.. they/he are usually pretty good with replacing balls like that one.. his R&D team might also want to look at it anyways to see what the problem is.. to me it sounds like a mismark mb, but you never now it could be a bad cover pour that got through the cracks somehow.. give him a shout and let us know what happens.. slashrr69
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Global900Guy

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Re: Bank Roll first impressions
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2011, 04:36:40 PM »
Yepp I am with slashrr on that one.
 
Today I had the chance to try the Bank Roll on 6 different sport shots on quite beaten up synthetics.
 
All I can say is WOW! Everything below 42ft was not playable with this ball. But the longer the patterns got, the better the Bank Roll got. Even on a 48ft pattern this ball had enough snap to push through the pocket hard.
 
Defenitely the strongest ball I ever had...cant imagine what it doese OOB (Polished it straight out of box).


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tdub36tjt

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Re: Bank Roll first impressions
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2011, 04:15:17 PM »
Gonna try to get it on a Determinator tomorrow.....I know Eric is a great guy. Just figured I'd try everything in my power before having to bothering him...

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