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Doug Sterner

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Blue-Purple Link
« on: March 18, 2009, 03:25:54 PM »
Well guys after struggling for 2-3weeks in our one local house I have decided to finally pick up a Link.

It has been ordered, now I need a layout.....

my specs are in my profile.....
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Re: Blue-Purple Link
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2009, 12:00:06 AM »
Standard questions:
1. How light/tricky is the oil pattern?
2. What ball are you using now?
3. How is it drilled?
4. Have you changed the stock surface?
5. How is it NOT working for you here?
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Re: Blue-Purple Link
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2009, 05:20:34 AM »
Doug,

I drilled a Blue/Purple Link up a couple weeks ago.  I have been using a 5" x 3-1/2" layout on my equipment lately, and using MoPinel's gradient line balance hole system to tweak the reaction.  I drilled the Link up 5 x 3-1/2, pin down,  with a weight hole at P2.  In the OOB condition on a fresh house shot, the Link had much more backend reaction than I was hoping for.  I took it home and hit it with a white Scotchbrite pad with little pressure just to knock some of the factory shine off of it.  Now, it gets excellent length with a nice, smooth controlled arc to the pocket.  It was exactly the ball reaction I was looking for.  I am able to play much further right than I have in a long time with this ball.
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Re: Blue-Purple Link
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2009, 11:38:42 PM »
Well charlest...

1. How light/tricky is the oil pattern?
wood lanes, there's actually quite a bit of oil in the center (55 units between the 3rd arrows) but the backends are squeaky clean and the pattern stops at 38 feet with a buff to 42. outside of 10 is snap city if you get any hand in the ball at all and have sub 20 MPH ball speed

2. What ball are you using now?
Have been using several different balls.....
Virtual Gravity...pin over bridge MB under thumb,1000 grit Abralon then polished
G Force Evolution...pin over ring cg kicked out (approx 5x4 pin high), OOB
Playmaker...4-1/2 x 4-1/2 with pin at 5:00 to ring finger, OOB
Psycho...6x5, no weighthole, 2000 grit Abralon with polish
Blast ZOne...label drill, OOB finish with Rough Buff over factory finish

3. How is it drilled?
see above

4. Have you changed the stock surface?
see above

5. How is it NOT working for you here?
As the oil pattern breaks down I am forced inside and even with changes in release, angle, ball speed and tilt I cannot keep the ball in the pocket for the latter 1/2 of the night.

What I am hoping to find is a ball that I can use a more comfortable release and play a line I am more comfortable with. IN other words, I want to play more of my A game and less of my D game by the end of the night.

I need 1 of 2 things:

1. average length with a tame backend reaction
2. lots of length with strong snappy backend

Opinions?
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Re: Blue-Purple Link
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2009, 11:52:23 PM »
quote:
Well charlest...I need 1 of 2 things:

1. average length with a tame backend reaction
2. lots of length with strong snappy backend

Opinions?
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Doug,

With the Link to get something like #1,  I'd suggest pin above the bridge area, in the range of 5.5" pin to PAP. To reduce the backend, I'd put the pin/CG/MB line directly towards your PAP. Weight hole fo further than on oyour PAP. Not much flare to kill on this ball in any case. I've seen this work very well on drying lines. The Link is not nearly as weak as people think it is. This should give you a lot of length and reduce the backend quit a bit. You might be able to play a relatively outside line.

Also, as necessary, don't be afraid to use something like Delayed Reaction or Control-It for added length and even more reduced backend.

Good Luck.
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Re: Blue-Purple Link
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2009, 08:25:57 AM »
Why not go with a 1-2" Pin to Pap and the MB in palm?  should smooth it out i would think.
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Re: Blue-Purple Link
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2009, 10:51:21 AM »
Layout 3 on the drill sheet?  

Or, ...if it's an asymm ball, why not put a control drill on it?
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Doug Sterner

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Re: Blue-Purple Link
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2009, 10:32:58 PM »
thanks guys...iot's always refreshing to get some "outsiders" opinions and views on things.

I was strongly considering  drilling one with the pin over bridge or middle finger with the mass bias ending up somewhere around my PAP.

Another option I was considering was pin in the same location but dropping the cg in the palm area and the mass bias under the thumb. I had a PowerGroove drilled like this and it was great. I really like the roll of the Virtual Gravity I have drilled this way also....just too much cover and core to make it work later in the day.

the 1-2" pin to PAP is a decent idea if the head oil stays...pins close to the PAP get the ball rolling early and make it sit on the backend...when our heads start to go the ball would go too early. I have had a few 2x4 and 2x6 balls and that has been the problem across the board...not enough ball on the backend early in the day but way too much too early late in the day. Wi theh core shape as it is in the Link I still think I'd get too much read and roll out of that drill.

AM going to sleep on it for a bit yet and then see what mood I am in when I drill it up....

Thanks again guys.
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Re: Blue-Purple Link
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2009, 12:36:16 AM »
I have drilled several of these up and for what it is worth here is my opinion.
My first mistake was drilling one up strong thinking this was going to be a weak ball. Pin above ring finger, cg out with MB in line with cg. Once I learned from my mistakes I drilled up a second one and have loved it ever since. Our stats are close, low tilt, hand up back, 350ish revs. I left in oob, placed pin above fingers stacked with cg on center grip line with the MB in my track right by thumb. Now I do believe my pin was right about 3inches but not 100% sure on that at the moment. The motion is long with a little kick in the back, I can play the oil line but not too deep unless really clean back ends.
Oh well hope you enjoy, ball has been a pleasure to throw and for the price tough to beat

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Re: Blue-Purple Link
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2009, 01:39:07 AM »
Would a rico drill be good?
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Re: Blue-Purple Link
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2009, 08:10:15 AM »
My experience with this ball:

I have mine drilled pin over the bridge with the CG in the grip center and the MB under the thumb.

Very good rolling ball, smooth and controllable, not flippy, needs some head oil or it will roll early, very predictable this way.

I will definitely hoard up a few of these for the future.
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Doug Sterner

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Re: Blue-Purple Link
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2009, 01:27:07 PM »
Thanks to sam and APK....I am thinking the same way you guys are...pin over bridge or middle with cg stacked in palm and mass bias under thumb. I am going to try to keep statics as dead neutral as I can.

Now for the ball to get here and get holes in it!!!!
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