Author Topic: How can i get a break pearl if my pro shop wont carry them? (Read 6551 times)

rakuin79 · « **on:** February 15, 2008, 02:09:38 AM »

I recently got my rotogrip cell and have set up an appointment to have it drilled this weekend. I asked about the break pearl since this is the pearl ball that i really want and they say that they cant order them and wont carry them at my pro shop. Its the only one in the area that i know of. So is there anyway i can get one from a proshop online?

Greens Pro Shop · « **Reply #1 on:** February 15, 2008, 10:29:14 AM »

Your Pro Shop is feeding you a line. Any true Pro Shop can call up Global 900 and get any ball in their line for you...there is no minimum number of balls they need to purchase and the price we pay on each ball includes the shipping so there is no added shipping expense. All it takes is 5 minutes of your pro shop guys time and he could get you a Break Pearl if he chose to...my question to him is why he wouldn't take the time to help you get a ball you desire and make a sale in the process?? He may not stock their equipment but he can most certainly get it.

rakuin79 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 15, 2008, 10:33:00 AM »

exactly what i was telling him and in the shops defense i know the guy i talked to is just a part time scrub and not the owner because i bowled on league with the owner last year and perhaps when he gets back from vacation i can get one but it just bothered me. And i understand what 900 is doing but i would also like to see a true proshop that does business online aswell as in person, i would like to see them have the oppourtunity to sell this equipment to masses like me that have not so great pro shops in the area

NicholasE · « **Reply #3 on:** February 15, 2008, 10:41:39 AM »

I would find the next closest shop and get them to order it. even if its a 45min drive. If you really want the ball why not?
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MC · « **Reply #4 on:** February 15, 2008, 10:48:38 AM »

you may be able to get a hold of one of the 900Global guys on here and see if they could make a call to "educate" the shop how easy it is to order their equipment.
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Krumpy300 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 15, 2008, 11:00:11 AM »

Tekneek will place an order for you for one if you really want one.
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EricThomas · « **Reply #6 on:** February 15, 2008, 12:25:48 PM »

Give me the shops name and phone number and i will get a ball there next week. I have set up 2 other shops today for customers inquiring about the balls. Its simple, fast, and painless, all the shop has to do is pick up a phone a dial a few numbers, but if you give me the info all he has to do is verify a few things and pay for the ball.
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RealBowler · « **Reply #7 on:** February 15, 2008, 01:13:39 PM »

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Tekneek will place an order for you for one if you really want one.
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Make sure he includes the drilling with that. Otherwise, that is a violation of company policy of "no on-line" sales.
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RealBowler · « **Reply #8 on:** February 15, 2008, 01:19:51 PM »

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Give me the shops name and phone number and i will get a ball there next week. I have set up 2 other shops today for customers inquiring about the balls. Its simple, fast, and painless, all the shop has to do is pick up a phone a dial a few numbers, but if you give me the info all he has to do is verify a few things and pay for the ball.
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Not surprising at all. Unfortunately I have the seen the same problem. The shops don't want to deal with anybody other than their normal supply chain. It doesn't matter how easy you make it for them to get the ball, it is different then how they are currently doing business and they won't make that change.

Sure, just find another pro shop. Drive how ever many miles and hours to find a shop that carries the balls or will order them for you. Gas is cheap and your time isn't important. Maybe you'll be lucky and they won't make a mistake. All pro shops have extremely convenient hours.
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newguy · « **Reply #9 on:** February 15, 2008, 01:50:33 PM »

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Give me the shops name and phone number and i will get a ball there next week. I have set up 2 other shops today for customers inquiring about the balls. Its simple, fast, and painless, all the shop has to do is pick up a phone a dial a few numbers, but if you give me the info all he has to do is verify a few things and pay for the ball.
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Not surprising at all. Unfortunately I have the seen the same problem. The shops don't want to deal with anybody other than their normal supply chain. It doesn't matter how easy you make it for them to get the ball, it is different then how they are currently doing business and they won't make that change.

Sure, just find another pro shop. Drive how ever many miles and hours to find a shop that carries the balls or will order them for you. Gas is cheap and your time isn't important. Maybe you'll be lucky and they won't make a mistake. All pro shops have extremely convenient hours.
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I don't think your response is sarcastic enough. We have a business model and for now it is working as planned. Not all shops or consumers like it, but that is just the way it is with any program, " you can't be eveything to everyone"

rakuin79 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 15, 2008, 01:58:40 PM »

after working the phones for awhile i got in touch with the owner of the pro shop and he says absolutely he can order one for me. The only thing he asks is that i put a deposit on it when the order is placed. Anybody have one that could tell me about where it would fit in my line up?

Rotogrip cell...undrilled
Dynothane vendetta sniper unsure about drilling but seems to handle the most oil so far for me
Track heat blast drilled forward roll and is my benchmark ball now
track strike machine...never really got comfy with this ball. seems to very unpredictable

i only started bowling lasst year and dont know too much but i can say that im righty about 14-15mph. Cranker-tweener with above avg rev rate but not extremely high. tend to like swinging more than playing straight up but can adjust when needed

RealBowler · « **Reply #11 on:** February 15, 2008, 03:16:16 PM »

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I don't think your response is sarcastic enough. We have a business model and for now it is working as planned. Not all shops or consumers like it, but that is just the way it is with any program, " you can't be eveything to everyone"

I assure you that the sarcasm was not meant towards your company. I have no problem with the way you choose to run your business and wish you nothing but success.

The people on this site seem to want to pretend that most bowling pro shops are run like a "real" business instead of some backroom, good 'ol boy network. For every pro shop that is run like a professional business, there are 3 or 4 that are not. There are plenty of guys that are the only business in town and don't care whether you come back or not. They will put in their few hours in the shop so that they can get free bowling, and spend most of their time repairing lane damaged balls. Pin next to ring finger and CG in the grip works just fine for most people. Drop your existing ball along with the new ball and come back in a few days, or weeks, and maybe somebody will get around to drilling it for you. Sorry, Bill only drills on Monday and Thursday from 11-2. Mike comes in on Wednesday night "around 8" and Steve, the lane "mechanic" might be able to help you if you need something simple. "If you don't like, go buy the equipment and drill your own stuff!"

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rakuin79 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 15, 2008, 03:27:26 PM »

unfortunately he is right. With the exception of the pro shop owner himself you cant get anything done around here. And the owner only comes in very early in the morning and is gone by noon so how is a guy that works normal hours supposed to get help? On top of that when a new guy like myself trully wants to get into the sport and has shown that while i have gotten myself to a 200-215avg based on teaching myself, i cant seem to get him to drill a ball to do what I want it to do. Rather im a test subjuect for something he wants me to try. Sometimes it works and sometimes not but its my money. I cant even get on a competetive league around here because they are either filled up or are just beginner leagues that they dont even address the lanes before they start so how can i test myself on different conditions unless i travel all over the place. Bowling in general needs an overhaul altogether. The lanes unless on a competetive league are crap, the prices are outrageous and the service is bad almost everywhere ive been. And all i want to do is get better but its made very hard for you if you dont work for the alley or know someone that does so you can get those "perks"

crankncrash · « **Reply #13 on:** February 15, 2008, 06:06:08 PM »

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unfortunately he is right. With the exception of the pro shop owner himself you cant get anything done around here. And the owner only comes in very early in the morning and is gone by noon so how is a guy that works normal hours supposed to get help? On top of that when a new guy like myself trully wants to get into the sport and has shown that while i have gotten myself to a 200-215avg based on teaching myself, i cant seem to get him to drill a ball to do what I want it to do. Rather im a test subjuect for something he wants me to try. Sometimes it works and sometimes not but its my money. I cant even get on a competetive league around here because they are either filled up or are just beginner leagues that they dont even address the lanes before they start so how can i test myself on different conditions unless i travel all over the place. Bowling in general needs an overhaul altogether. The lanes unless on a competetive league are crap, the prices are outrageous and the service is bad almost everywhere ive been. And all i want to do is get better but its made very hard for you if you dont work for the alley or know someone that does so you can get those "perks"

Unfortunately you are right on that one. AMF has been the demon in the bowling industry IMO, they say all the right things, but they don't follow it up. I walked into a center saw 4.75 a game, turned around and walked out. That is not even close to fair. If you want to fill the place and promote bowling to the youth don't tell me you are doing that at 4.75 a game. Please, I could go to ANY other non AMF house and bowl 2 games for that (maybe not a full 2, but damn close). Then there are the rinky dink houses that are exactly as you describe, they don't care and you get screwed. I really loved working in the house I did in highschool, it was done right! Every league got a fresh shot, period. The ONLY exception was a back to back night league that knew they would get the second shift of the guys right before them. Open bowlers usually saw lanes with 3 or less games on them. Though not perfect conditions its hard to match too. I am so frustrated in general with the bowling industry that I would actually consider getting back into a house to help direct it. I see places where JUST down the road, you have a great house, but then there is this hole that still gets filled up (must be the beer is cheap), the balls come back gross, the lanes are hardly ever dressed, and if you bring a new ball, leave it in the bag unless you want it to look more shall we say.. battle tested. My niece bowls on a HS team now (made NYS qualifiers in 7th grade, I'm proud) had to bowl in that hole with a brand new TNV, cover got 4 huge marks right in her track, the ball thumped down the lane. It was the 2nd game she had on the ball. The PROSHOP owner stepped up and gave her a new one, what a nice gesture on HIS part, but the owner wouldn't touch it.... Something is amis in the bowling world no doubt. And as far as ANY proshop saying they won't order a ball for you, tell them to pound salt in their holes. That is plain stupid and lazy on their part. I worked in a shop, its PAINLESS to get a ball from a distributor, and if you can get it as part of a bunch of stuff, no shipping.

Sjf · « **Reply #14 on:** February 15, 2008, 06:56:01 PM »

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Give me the shops name and phone number and i will get a ball there next week. I have set up 2 other shops today for customers inquiring about the balls. Its simple, fast, and painless, all the shop has to do is pick up a phone a dial a few numbers, but if you give me the info all he has to do is verify a few things and pay for the ball.
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Not surprising at all. Unfortunately I have the seen the same problem. The shops don't want to deal with anybody other than their normal supply chain. It doesn't matter how easy you make it for them to get the ball, it is different then how they are currently doing business and they won't make that change.

Sure, just find another pro shop. Drive how ever many miles and hours to find a shop that carries the balls or will order them for you. Gas is cheap and your time isn't important. Maybe you'll be lucky and they won't make a mistake. All pro shops have extremely convenient hours.
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I don't think your response is sarcastic enough. We have a business model and for now it is working as planned. Not all shops or consumers like it, but that is just the way it is with any program, " you can't be eveything to everyone"

Newguy, Well our shop likes it. We sold 3 global balls earlier this week.
I believe 2 of the sales were made from customer's going on your web site and finding a pro shop.

Thanks

Btw, This policy of Global's is their business. However, it would not bother us if they did indeed sell thru Dist. Even if that means that some dist. would sell to online dealers.

Online dealers are there now with just about every model and make of balls on the market. If a pro shop prices their balls properly, It's no big deal.
Last Sat. our shop drilled 4 outside balls and sold 9 new ones.
People on this site are big online users, but they don't represent the whole market.

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