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Title: Leaving Roto, looking at 900G
Post by: lefty50 on June 12, 2009, 11:19:32 PM
I'm searching for a new ball company after taking all Roto out of the bag. I've heard good things about 900G and am anxious to give them a try. Can anyone educate me on the following to start?

- Which ball in the 900G line compares favorably to a Rogue Cell?
- Any other recommendations for a low-rev lefty who struggles in long oil?
- Is there any relationship between Lane #1 and 900G/AMF? (I'm definitely not a Lane #1 fan...)

Thanks in advance
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Title: Re: Leaving Roto, looking at 900G
Post by: BWDavy on June 13, 2009, 09:27:48 AM
I'll take this one guys.

You sound similar to me.  Rogue Cell is an assymmetric hybrid, so the nearest to that in the range is the Break S-75.

For a low rev lefty who struggles on heavy oil as well, I can say just one thing - Mega Friction.  It's AMF, but all their stuff is poured by 900Global.

I don't know if Lane#1 has any of their balls poured by 900G.

Hope this helps.  If you do go ahead with the changeover, you won't be disappointed.
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Title: Re: Leaving Roto, looking at 900G
Post by: directdrill on June 13, 2009, 09:28:59 AM
900G pours for Lane #1.
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Title: Re: Leaving Roto, looking at 900G
Post by: qstick777 on June 13, 2009, 09:56:42 AM
Get your hands on the original Break (s-70) if you can.  It should prove to be one of the most versatile balls in your bag.

They are in the process of discontinuing and bringing out some new stuff - if you are lucky you will be able to find some of the older stuff.
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Title: Re: Leaving Roto, looking at 900G
Post by: batbowler on June 13, 2009, 10:10:43 AM
lefty50,
Just curious to see why you're leaving Roto Grip? Sometimes you may not match up with certain equipment, but then again if you don't have the right layout for your style you won't match up either! Just a thought and I'm not a high rev player, right handed and over 50, but I've experiment with different layouts to help make up for low to med revs. Good luck with your Quest, Bruce
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Title: Re: Leaving Roto, looking at 900G
Post by: clt2244 on June 13, 2009, 10:26:39 AM
I am a fan of both global 900 and roto grip, and there both making good stuff now, if your looking for something similar to the rogue cell, i think the break point would be closer to its reaction, the s75 is a lot earlier than my rogue cell, and the layouts are very similar, and i agree with the other statements about the mega friction, that is one heck of a oil ball, IMO it out hooks everything out there (including that POS Virtual Gravity), and lane 1 is pored by global (i believe) but with equipment there should be little relationship
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Title: Re: Leaving Roto, looking at 900G
Post by: Gunny on June 13, 2009, 11:44:21 AM
900G is a HOT brand right now.  Great product from a great bunch of guys!
As far as comparable to the Rogue Cell, its definately not the S75 or Bounty.
Those two pieces roll alot sooner.  The Break Point I havent tried so cant
compare that to it.  Although, my Seismic Solaris Requiem brought up to same
grit as my Rogue Cell, was almost identical.  Both are drilled the same and
the Requiem has a bit more midlane.
Title: Re: Leaving Roto, looking at 900G
Post by: LaneHammer20 on June 13, 2009, 01:53:25 PM
I say the Break point as well, they would have similar shapes, and prolly the same strngth oil wise. S-75 is a stronger ball from what I have seen as far as oil is concerned. A bounty huntere even though not really much talked about it performance wise goes, it seems it woould be similar as well.

I am converting away from all companies to going strait AMF-900 global as well for next season. Have not bought a ball yet that hasn't been a sure keeper, and performance is amazing. I will ahve a Legends/LM ball or 2 in there though

As for heavy oil rpoblems, that has already been clear that you need to picvk up a Mega Friction.

My suggestions, if you can find one, pick yourself up a AMF Code, that ball is special, and many will never get to try it.
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Title: Re: Leaving Roto, looking at 900G
Post by: lefty50 on June 13, 2009, 03:00:04 PM
Amazing replies... all coherent, concise, no bashing, and even proper spelling! What planet have I landed on?

I think I'll have to try multiple balls to get a proper feel  

I won't go into huge detail as to why I'm leaving Roto, but the bottom line is this: my Cell was great but didn't last long even with VERY proper maintenance, my Horizon solid didn't fit my game, the Rogue was huge but inconsistent, and the final straw was the recent marketing campaign. I've just decided to put my disposable income in another company's pocket.

Sure sounds like I've found a home. My major problem has always been going too long, so the earlier roll of the S75 actually intrigues me. I hear with interest the love shown to the Break Point, but will have to fight the "latest and greatest" syndrome to pass by the Bounty Hunter. Also have wanted to try the Code and Nkrpytion Code. Looks like this could turn out to be a good summer after all!

On edit, I should add one thing. I had a bad look in team at Nats, so went down Sunday morning to pick up a new ball. I can't remember which booth, but they had both AMF/900G and Roto. I REALLY wanted to try a Mega, but the guy in the booth told me to save my money and that the Mega "burns up in 5 feet, you'll hate it". Of course, now I wonder....

Many thanks for the replies. I haven't thrown anything AMF since a 300 with a Gold Angle many years ago... I'll stay in touch.
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Edited on 6/13/2009 3:10 PM
Title: Re: Leaving Roto, looking at 900G
Post by: LaneHammer20 on June 13, 2009, 03:26:58 PM
you may want to re-read my reply, spelling was so so as best..HAHA

I always try to typer really fast, and never really look over it that much at the end.

If you want early roll strong hook with suprising versatility, especially for a oil ball, the S-75 is your ball. I just love this ball.
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Title: Re: Leaving Roto, looking at 900G
Post by: Jay on June 13, 2009, 03:31:11 PM
Just a random company related question.  Do AMF and 900G happen to have the same Brand Manager?

I don't know what it is but I don't have that much interest in AMF like I do in 900G.  The Code sounds like it was pretty good though.
Title: Re: Leaving Roto, looking at 900G
Post by: Gunny on June 13, 2009, 03:56:34 PM
not sure strike.  but the Code & Nkryption are awesome balls!  You will
not be disappointed.
Title: Re: Leaving Roto, looking at 900G
Post by: LaneHammer20 on June 13, 2009, 04:06:24 PM
I believe Eric is doing both.

From what I have gathered, these company's are basically the same. The people who sit around and think up the balls for 900 global are the same that sit around and think up AMF equipment.

One thing to look at, 900 global seems to market the strong mass bias equipment, and they seem to keep  AMF having symmetric or low mass bias cores. Giving a bunch of reaction shapes to choose from. Which is why I call this comany the most versatile selection out there. They have evrything that you could want to choose from for varying lane conditons and reaction shapes.

To date I have seen no lack in performance in any of my AMF quipment compared to my 900 global stuff, they are at the top of the list in that category. SAme company just different names and reaction shapes.

Eric coming on here and clearing this up better than me would be the best bet.
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Title: Re: Leaving Roto, looking at 900G
Post by: LaneHammer20 on June 13, 2009, 04:12:07 PM
this is to lefty50

steveinsnellville or somthing like that has posted alot of videos of his 900 global stuff on youtube. He is a lefty and has a low rev rate, would probably be nice to lookj at and give you a good idea of what to expect

Heres a link of videos of his to choose from


http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=steveinsnellville&view=videos
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Title: Re: Leaving Roto, looking at 900G
Post by: JessN16 on June 13, 2009, 05:36:46 PM
I now have my first 900G-labeled ball, a Break S75. It is a very nice ball indeed and I have a Break Pearl coming as well, in addition to both the AMF Heist balls. Judging from what I've seen so far from the S75, low-rev players would love it. I'm around the tweener-rev level and I love the reaction I'm getting.

I would say this to those who have an anti-Lane #1 sentiment: If your opinion of Lane #1 was formed back when Brunswick was still pouring their stuff, get a 900G-poured Lane #1 ball and test it. The change in pourers made a huge difference. The Supernova XP is one of the most impressive balls, from any company, that I've found and if you like to watch balls go crazy in the backend, get one of those and polish it. I also have their BuzzBomb/R, a pearl ball, and it covers the midlane better than any pearl I've found lately. On the flip side, I'm having a ton of trouble with the 900G-poured Chainsaw.

My Heist solid is a good ball for control on mediums. I have not drilled up the Heist Pearl yet.

Jess
Title: Re: Leaving Roto, looking at 900G
Post by: lefty50 on June 13, 2009, 06:00:21 PM
Lane, thanks for the link. I'll go check it out right away....
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Title: Re: Leaving Roto, looking at 900G
Post by: clt2244 on June 14, 2009, 03:13:16 AM
the mega friction does hook early but the really good thing about it, it takes surface change great, plus it has a symmetrical block so its very very open to drilling, i know to LOW LOW rev bowlers that couldn't get a cell to move that much but after drilling a mega friction, there oil ball is set, as far as the guy at the both, he is correct on it hooking early but it still has a lot of power and hit, granted not everybody likes early (including myself) but the mega friction has to be the most hooking ball out there right now, hands down, dont be afraid to try it and if your afraid of too early, take the pin high and hit it with some polish, you will be set for a oil ball long or strong

as for lane 1 stuff, i havent tried it so i cant comment on it
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