Equipment Boards => 900 Global => Topic started by: banjoec on December 20, 2011, 10:54:06 AM
Title: Not since this silly NEAT system
Post by: banjoec on December 20, 2011, 10:54:06 AM
Haven't purchased a 900 Global ball since the NEAT system was started. How about lowering the price of the NEAT pads or scrapping this gimmick.
Title: Re: Not since this silly NEAT system
Post by: dw23 on December 20, 2011, 07:51:33 PM
Balls with the NEAT finishes have worked well for me so far. I just bought a couple of NEAT pads to see how they work. If they last a lot longer than Abralon it may be worth it but I bowl a lot and change surfaces a lot.
I do wish they were withing a dollar of Abralon instead of 3 dollars.
DW
Title: Re: Not since this silly NEAT system
Post by: Doug Sterner on December 20, 2011, 09:38:47 PM
The NEAT pads are significantly better than Abralon. Not only do they last much longer but they also give a far more consistent finish on the ball over the life of the pad.
Doug Sterner Doug's Pro Shop Owego, NY dougsproshop@aol.com www.dougsproshop.net RotoGrip Star Pro Shop
Turbo XTreme Dealer
Title: Re: Not since this silly NEAT system
Post by: TheGame300 on December 21, 2011, 06:42:54 AM
Not to mention you don't have to use the NEAT pads on the ball after you purchase it. If you want to change the surface you can still use the other types of pads.
The core and cover combinations on the Nuts Pearl and the Train are enough to warrant purchasing them.
GPS member (Lerro's Pro Shop - East Orange, NJ)
900 Global.......The Future is in your hands.
Title: Re: Not since this silly NEAT system
Post by: Hoselrockets on December 21, 2011, 02:57:18 PM
Couldn't agree more with this part of this post. Honestly just keep bitching about the NEAT Pad technology it's ok the rest of us will reap the rewards of a better pad. Good luck...
THB
Title: Re: Not since this silly NEAT system
Post by: Impending Doom on December 21, 2011, 03:15:23 PM
I remember saying the same thing about abralon when it came out. Why not just use sand paper or scotch brite?l Well, abralon is pretty awesome. Not having gotten my hands on any neat pads, i think the idea is awesome. More uniform sanding, longer lasting, and gives it a great look. As more people buy, I'm sure the price will drop. Simple as that. Still can't believe that my nuts pearl is 4000. Looks hella shiny to me!
*Inventor of the FIBJAM*
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The end is near
The final warning
The sun disappears.
Title: Re: Not since this silly NEAT system
Post by: kong1 on December 21, 2011, 04:21:41 PM
I have tried the neat pads and like them. I think the surface of the ball looks much better I just hope they last longer like they say they will. It does seem that abralon pads do wear out quickly, especially the finer grits.
Title: Re: Not since this silly NEAT system
Post by: banjoec on December 24, 2011, 07:52:32 AM
TheGame300 and I bowl in a league together. He know's I carry 3 900Global balls in my arsenal. I'm just not buying this idea of a better sanding pad at 3x's the cost. I don't see anyone bowling better with these new pads, and the only testimonial is from paid staffers or pro shops.
Call it bitching if you like, I'm just not easily persuaded.
Title: Re: Not since this silly NEAT system
Post by: tdub36tjt on December 24, 2011, 09:16:57 AM
I haven't really used them, but if you buy a ball with the NEAT system you don't have to keep that surface on it....I didn't care for the T surface on the Nuts so I hit it with 2000....
Title: Re: Not since this silly NEAT system
Post by: charlest on December 24, 2011, 12:09:50 PM
Anyone yet know or care to disclose who makes them and what the abrasive is?
Considering the standards to which both Abralon and Siaair Velvet pads are made, Let's just say I find it hard to believe some of the claims made for NEAT pads. I'd have to surmise that some of the enthusiasm shown is due more to the propaganda, err, advertising claims than their actual use.
So I'd like to understand the engineering behind them.
Title: Re: Not since this silly NEAT system
Post by: tdub36tjt on December 24, 2011, 12:20:50 PM
Not sure if you have seen them yet. But they almost feel like a textured rubber....They are very weird..Not what I was expecting. I only purchased a T pad. Probably should have gotten an E and A instead. The T pad is very fine grit and is probably fairly similar to polish except it is much easier to repeat..... And I tend to like surfaces around 2000 more....I personally think they should start giving the consumers or pro shops one pad with each ball so they can get them in the hands of those who would use them...
Title: Re: Not since this silly NEAT system
Post by: Doug Sterner on December 25, 2011, 08:41:04 PM
The NEAT pad abrasives feel an awful lot like the old 3M TriZact pads that Brunswick used to market.....I don't know that they are the same but they FEEL very similar.
Doug Sterner Doug's Pro Shop Owego, NY dougsproshop@aol.com www.dougsproshop.net RotoGrip Star Pro Shop
Turbo XTreme Dealer
Title: Re: Not since this silly NEAT system
Post by: tburky on December 25, 2011, 11:12:39 PM
Never cared for the trizact pads. I do like the abralon and siaair pads. I will have to look into the neat pads and try to understand the thought process behind the technology.
Title: Re: Not since this silly NEAT system
Post by: Hoselrockets on December 25, 2011, 11:17:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph0N4Ndes78
Here is a link to the video...
THB
Title: Re: Not since this silly NEAT system
Post by: charlest on December 26, 2011, 04:30:55 AM
Trizact pads are very thin, only 5" in diameter, no foam backing, but the abrasive is VERY hard.They're designed for very hard substances, like glass and corian.
And they're a lot cheaper than either Abralon or Siaair.
Title: Re: Not since this silly NEAT system
Post by: Doug Sterner on December 26, 2011, 05:39:34 PM
Charlest.......I was referring to the actual abrasive itself, the pad or applicator. If I run my hand across a trizact pad and then a NEAT pad of equal grit they feel very similar to me.
Doug Sterner Doug's Pro Shop Owego, NY dougsproshop@aol.com www.dougsproshop.net RotoGrip Star Pro Shop
Turbo XTreme Dealer
Title: Re: Not since this silly NEAT system
Post by: charlest on December 26, 2011, 06:08:11 PM
Ah! Ok, I get the picture now.
If they got someone to attack Trizact's abrasive to a foam rubber backing, That would explain some of this. Wonder if 3M is involved???
Title: Re: Not since this silly NEAT system
Post by: oprahsdouche on December 27, 2011, 08:56:29 AM
Am i missing something?
I need to sand 30 balls....
If i pay $3 for an abralon pad that i can sand 10 balls with i have to buy 3 pads...thats $9
or
I can buy 1 neat pad for $9 and sand all 30....
The pricing is relevant to the product life and the technology....We have been using these pads in the shop for a few weeks and they work really well. You have to use water so there is no benefit keeping them in the bowling bag for a quick touch up by hand before league but thats the only downside we have experienced.