I put the pin down on mine, pin to pap is 4.25, with the mb on my VAL with a low hole. Only was able to throw it on some leftover stuff the other day, but the ball is strong, and covered a lot of boards. I could see where this would be an over under nightmare with pin up and a flippy mb placement.
I do agree with the other posters. Surface does rule. But, also, having something laid out differently isn't a bad idea.
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