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Sean Rash
« on: January 07, 2020, 01:51:11 PM »
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Re: Sean Rash
« Reply #181 on: January 27, 2022, 10:34:10 AM »
I dont think Rashs comments affected Russos shots. He left the same split in the 9th and converted it which was huge. He then left it again on the first shot in the 10th. Had he not just left the exact same split in the 9th I definitely  would see it differently. Russo by far handled himself far more professional then Rash.

In terms of the "equipment checking debacle" no that doesn't affect my decision on Rash's statement. His mental game is that weak that he thinks all of this stuff matters then thats great for everyone else. Had Rash struck on his second shot and not yanked the piss out of it then Im sure he would have been mister happy.

It is only when Rash failed that he then blames everyone and everything else. World is full of people who are like that and turns out most people dont care for it.
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Re: Sean Rash
« Reply #182 on: January 27, 2022, 10:38:01 AM »


 and definitely fired from 900

That's a toughie right there.

I don't really have a clue about the background of his deal with Brunswick, but it's pretty clear that Sean & Daria really helped 900 Global get put "on the map" along with Chris Barnes. Sean won almost immediately when he switched, people noticed.

I do agree with others on the timing/place of his rant. No place for that at all, yikes.



900 Global being under the Storm umbrella has brought more awareness and value than the staff endorsements from Rash and Pajak.  I have a hard time believing that anyone is buying 900G as a direct result of seeing Rash and Pajak throwing it.  They could both change brands tomorrow and it would have no impact on 900G awareness and sales.  Not enough people actually see them use the equipment with any amount of regularity to have a substantial influence on brand awareness and overall sales.


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Re: Sean Rash
« Reply #183 on: January 27, 2022, 11:32:26 AM »


 and definitely fired from 900

That's a toughie right there.

I don't really have a clue about the background of his deal with Brunswick, but it's pretty clear that Sean & Daria really helped 900 Global get put "on the map" along with Chris Barnes. Sean won almost immediately when he switched, people noticed.

I do agree with others on the timing/place of his rant. No place for that at all, yikes.



900 Global being under the Storm umbrella has brought more awareness and value than the staff endorsements from Rash and Pajak. I have a hard time believing that anyone is buying 900G as a direct result of seeing Rash and Pajak throwing it.  They could both change brands tomorrow and it would have no impact on 900G awareness and sales. Not enough people actually see them use the equipment with any amount of regularity to have a substantial influence on brand awareness and overall sales.







Exactly my thoughts.


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Re: Sean Rash
« Reply #184 on: January 27, 2022, 11:45:05 AM »


 and definitely fired from 900



900 Global being under the Storm umbrella has brought more awareness and value than the staff endorsements from Rash and Pajak. I have a hard time believing that anyone is buying 900G as a direct result of seeing Rash and Pajak throwing it.  They could both change brands tomorrow and it would have no impact on 900G awareness and sales. Not enough people actually see them use the equipment with any amount of regularity to have a substantial influence on brand awareness and overall sales.







Unfortunately guys....you're BOTH wrong! I bowl with a bunch of bowlers who occasionally watch the PBA, and if Rash or Pajak are winning with Global at the time that they happened to watch it........you'll see those balls in the hands of these house bowlers next week! This is the truth, and all the manufacturers know this as well! It is what it is.
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Re: Sean Rash
« Reply #185 on: January 27, 2022, 11:59:19 AM »
So here is another thought:

If you remember- a while back some Purple Hammers were found to be too soft. That is why the durometer check was reinstated.

Think back a few more years - the 2 original Jackals were declared ineligible for use in USBC sanctioned events and the PBA because some - not all - Jackals had a diff above the USBC allowed .060 UNDRILLED differential. Every Jackal and Jackal Carnage were essentially useless in a league/tourney bowlers bag. Motiv replaced them with the LE Jackal at a huge expense to the company.

So I leave you with this. Why did every Jackal have the certification removed because only some were illegal and yet we now know some Purple Hammers are illegal (too soft) but the USBC has not required all of them to be pulled?

If you do something one way - you need to do it that way when a similar issue crops up. In my mind - although it’s a different problem (undrilled diff vs too soft) in the end it’s the same scenario- some of the balls violate a USBC rule. USBC should treat the situations identical (my opinion).

Now - none of this changes my mind on Rash’s behavior. It was unprofessional and uncalled for and absolutely should have been handled differently by him.


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Re: Sean Rash
« Reply #186 on: January 27, 2022, 12:23:55 PM »
Do any of you know the story of the ball testing fiasco which occurred on site last weekend you may change your opinion
Then please inform us of what happened.

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Re: Sean Rash
« Reply #187 on: January 27, 2022, 12:26:58 PM »
I will add one more thing about this and then call it quits.  Had Rash just made the blanket comment and left it at that it wouldnt have been as big a deal.  It was what he said after that and then doubled down on it during the interview with Kimberly.  The facts that he said "I dont give a s..t" and then in the interview said it was going to cost him and he didnt care is what makes this 100 times worse. 

If he would have mumbled something like "Figures he used a Purple Hammer" and called it quits, we would have just considered it what we already know about him and that is he is a whiner and life goes on.  But the fact he used profanity again and then said he didnt care; is what made this a much bigger story.  I wonder of the fine is undisclosed because it is so small its basically a slap on the wrist (maybe like his winnings for the week?).  A particular scene in Happy Gilmore comes to mind when I think about this.

PGA Commish:  "You will be fined $25,000 and suspended 1 month."
Shooter McGavin:  "SUSPENDED!!!!  Kick him off the tour."
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Re: Sean Rash
« Reply #188 on: January 27, 2022, 12:44:16 PM »
I will add one more thing about this and then call it quits.  Had Rash just made the blanket comment and left it at that it wouldnt have been as big a deal.  It was what he said after that and then doubled down on it during the interview with Kimberly.  The facts that he said "I dont give a s..t" and then in the interview said it was going to cost him and he didnt care is what makes this 100 times worse. 

If he would have mumbled something like "Figures he used a Purple Hammer" and called it quits, we would have just considered it what we already know about him and that is he is a whiner and life goes on.  But the fact he used profanity again and then said he didnt care; is what made this a much bigger story.  I wonder of the fine is undisclosed because it is so small its basically a slap on the wrist (maybe like his winnings for the week?).  A particular scene in Happy Gilmore comes to mind when I think about this.

PGA Commish:  "You will be fined $25,000 and suspended 1 month."
Shooter McGavin:  "SUSPENDED!!!!  Kick him off the tour."

This is actually what Chris Barnes and Stu Williams said as well

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Re: Sean Rash
« Reply #189 on: January 27, 2022, 01:48:27 PM »
I will add one more thing about this and then call it quits.  Had Rash just made the blanket comment and left it at that it wouldnt have been as big a deal.  It was what he said after that and then doubled down on it during the interview with Kimberly.  The facts that he said "I dont give a s..t" and then in the interview said it was going to cost him and he didnt care is what makes this 100 times worse. 

If he would have mumbled something like "Figures he used a Purple Hammer" and called it quits, we would have just considered it what we already know about him and that is he is a whiner and life goes on.  But the fact he used profanity again and then said he didnt care; is what made this a much bigger story.  I wonder of the fine is undisclosed because it is so small its basically a slap on the wrist (maybe like his winnings for the week?).  A particular scene in Happy Gilmore comes to mind when I think about this.

PGA Commish:  "You will be fined $25,000 and suspended 1 month."
Shooter McGavin:  "SUSPENDED!!!!  Kick him off the tour."

That's why I brought up the other incidents. Holman got $2500 and 9 tournaments for breaking the light at the foul line. Burton got 6 months for hitting someone. PDW didn't hit anyone; it was only his conduct that sin binned him for a year. This is light for Rash.

But I also have to agree with TWOHAND834; I understand about the rules being the rules and that a player can request/demand a test on equipment at any time to be sure it is legal/valid. That is perfectly within their right, and I'd support that. But the fact that it has to do with urethane, and the fact that Rash has had history on his feelings about urethane, this screams more about his main focus being on someone or something else, and the lack of focus on his game. He's essentially complaining about something that for the most is beyond his control, instead of staying in his own lane and running his own race. If there was a problem, it could have been dealt with afterwards, especially if he focused on his game and won on his own merits. That would have not only kept his integrity and held his influence/capital higher, but also given him leverage for his main complaint, in which more fans could have stood behind him.

But he didn't, because he couldn't, so he spent that influence and capital. While everyone is talking about what he has said (and justifiably so), what people aren't talking about is much deeper: the fact that his mental game, especially against urethane, isn't strong. Someone talked about he was possibly trying to get into Russo's head... now, not just PBA bowlers, but every bowler can get into Rash's head by simply putting a Pitch Black, Purple Hammer, a Tank, all three Black Widow Urethanes, and everything Faball on the ball return. That screams to me that a lack of mental game is there, especially regarding urethane, and he can't, hasn't, or doesn't want to address it.

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Re: Sean Rash
« Reply #190 on: January 27, 2022, 02:00:41 PM »


 and definitely fired from 900



900 Global being under the Storm umbrella has brought more awareness and value than the staff endorsements from Rash and Pajak. I have a hard time believing that anyone is buying 900G as a direct result of seeing Rash and Pajak throwing it.  They could both change brands tomorrow and it would have no impact on 900G awareness and sales. Not enough people actually see them use the equipment with any amount of regularity to have a substantial influence on brand awareness and overall sales.







Unfortunately guys....you're BOTH wrong! I bowl with a bunch of bowlers who occasionally watch the PBA, and if Rash or Pajak are winning with Global at the time that they happened to watch it........you'll see those balls in the hands of these house bowlers next week! This is the truth, and all the manufacturers know this as well! It is what it is.


Most bowlers I know that watch Pajak bowl aren't watching her to see what equipment she is throwing.  Might sound a bit crude, but that is the reality.  Additionally, most bowlers I know couldn't care less about anything Rash does unless he shoots his mouth off.  Then that is what they focus on.  There are only a handful of bowlers that the manufacturers probably really care about in terms of sponsorships (Troup, Belmonte, Duke, Liz Johnson, Jones, O'Neill, Barnes, PDW, WRW, etc.)  The others they keep in their portfolio but don't really work extra hard to keep them on staff.

"Win on Sunday, sell on Monday" is a known adage in the racing industry.  I guess it could apply to bowling balls.  However the audience watching bowling is typically 0.06% the size of Nascar, so any effect is minimal to the bowling ball market.

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Re: Sean Rash
« Reply #191 on: January 27, 2022, 02:01:24 PM »
I will add one more thing about this and then call it quits.  Had Rash just made the blanket comment and left it at that it wouldnt have been as big a deal.  It was what he said after that and then doubled down on it during the interview with Kimberly.  The facts that he said "I dont give a s..t" and then in the interview said it was going to cost him and he didnt care is what makes this 100 times worse. 

If he would have mumbled something like "Figures he used a Purple Hammer" and called it quits, we would have just considered it what we already know about him and that is he is a whiner and life goes on.  But the fact he used profanity again and then said he didnt care; is what made this a much bigger story.  I wonder of the fine is undisclosed because it is so small its basically a slap on the wrist (maybe like his winnings for the week?).  A particular scene in Happy Gilmore comes to mind when I think about this.

PGA Commish:  "You will be fined $25,000 and suspended 1 month."
Shooter McGavin:  "SUSPENDED!!!!  Kick him off the tour."

That's why I brought up the other incidents. Holman got $2500 and 9 tournaments for breaking the light at the foul line. Burton got 6 months for hitting someone. PDW didn't hit anyone; it was only his conduct that sin binned him for a year. This is light for Rash.

But I also have to agree with TWOHAND834; I understand about the rules being the rules and that a player can request/demand a test on equipment at any time to be sure it is legal/valid. That is perfectly within their right, and I'd support that. But the fact that it has to do with urethane, and the fact that Rash has had history on his feelings about urethane, this screams more about his main focus being on someone or something else, and the lack of focus on his game. He's essentially complaining about something that for the most is beyond his control, instead of staying in his own lane and running his own race. If there was a problem, it could have been dealt with afterwards, especially if he focused on his game and won on his own merits. That would have not only kept his integrity and held his influence/capital higher, but also given him leverage for his main complaint, in which more fans could have stood behind him.

But he didn't, because he couldn't, so he spent that influence and capital. While everyone is talking about what he has said (and justifiably so), what people aren't talking about is much deeper: the fact that his mental game, especially against urethane, isn't strong. Someone talked about he was possibly trying to get into Russo's head... now, not just PBA bowlers, but every bowler can get into Rash's head by simply putting a Pitch Black, Purple Hammer, a Tank, all three Black Widow Urethanes, and everything Faball on the ball return. That screams to me that a lack of mental game is there, especially regarding urethane, and he can't, hasn't, or doesn't want to address it.

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I’m sorry but all of his complaining about urethane lost all credibility as he now looks like the biggest hypocrite ever.
https://twitter.com/sean_rash/status/1482551708182007814?s=21
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Re: Sean Rash
« Reply #192 on: January 27, 2022, 02:23:16 PM »
I will add one more thing about this and then call it quits.  Had Rash just made the blanket comment and left it at that it wouldnt have been as big a deal.  It was what he said after that and then doubled down on it during the interview with Kimberly.  The facts that he said "I dont give a s..t" and then in the interview said it was going to cost him and he didnt care is what makes this 100 times worse. 

If he would have mumbled something like "Figures he used a Purple Hammer" and called it quits, we would have just considered it what we already know about him and that is he is a whiner and life goes on.  But the fact he used profanity again and then said he didnt care; is what made this a much bigger story.  I wonder of the fine is undisclosed because it is so small its basically a slap on the wrist (maybe like his winnings for the week?).  A particular scene in Happy Gilmore comes to mind when I think about this.

PGA Commish:  "You will be fined $25,000 and suspended 1 month."
Shooter McGavin:  "SUSPENDED!!!!  Kick him off the tour."

That's why I brought up the other incidents. Holman got $2500 and 9 tournaments for breaking the light at the foul line. Burton got 6 months for hitting someone. PDW didn't hit anyone; it was only his conduct that sin binned him for a year. This is light for Rash.

But I also have to agree with TWOHAND834; I understand about the rules being the rules and that a player can request/demand a test on equipment at any time to be sure it is legal/valid. That is perfectly within their right, and I'd support that. But the fact that it has to do with urethane, and the fact that Rash has had history on his feelings about urethane, this screams more about his main focus being on someone or something else, and the lack of focus on his game. He's essentially complaining about something that for the most is beyond his control, instead of staying in his own lane and running his own race. If there was a problem, it could have been dealt with afterwards, especially if he focused on his game and won on his own merits. That would have not only kept his integrity and held his influence/capital higher, but also given him leverage for his main complaint, in which more fans could have stood behind him.

But he didn't, because he couldn't, so he spent that influence and capital. While everyone is talking about what he has said (and justifiably so), what people aren't talking about is much deeper: the fact that his mental game, especially against urethane, isn't strong. Someone talked about he was possibly trying to get into Russo's head... now, not just PBA bowlers, but every bowler can get into Rash's head by simply putting a Pitch Black, Purple Hammer, a Tank, all three Black Widow Urethanes, and everything Faball on the ball return. That screams to me that a lack of mental game is there, especially regarding urethane, and he can't, hasn't, or doesn't want to address it.

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I’m sorry but all of his complaining about urethane lost all credibility as he now looks like the biggest hypocrite ever.
https://twitter.com/sean_rash/status/1482551708182007814?s=21

Neither the UC2 nor the Zen are urethane.  If he was bragging about using a UC3, I could see the hypocrisy argument...


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Re: Sean Rash
« Reply #193 on: January 27, 2022, 02:25:56 PM »
I will add one more thing about this and then call it quits.  Had Rash just made the blanket comment and left it at that it wouldnt have been as big a deal.  It was what he said after that and then doubled down on it during the interview with Kimberly.  The facts that he said "I dont give a s..t" and then in the interview said it was going to cost him and he didnt care is what makes this 100 times worse. 

If he would have mumbled something like "Figures he used a Purple Hammer" and called it quits, we would have just considered it what we already know about him and that is he is a whiner and life goes on.  But the fact he used profanity again and then said he didnt care; is what made this a much bigger story.  I wonder of the fine is undisclosed because it is so small its basically a slap on the wrist (maybe like his winnings for the week?).  A particular scene in Happy Gilmore comes to mind when I think about this.

PGA Commish:  "You will be fined $25,000 and suspended 1 month."
Shooter McGavin:  "SUSPENDED!!!!  Kick him off the tour."

That's why I brought up the other incidents. Holman got $2500 and 9 tournaments for breaking the light at the foul line. Burton got 6 months for hitting someone. PDW didn't hit anyone; it was only his conduct that sin binned him for a year. This is light for Rash.

But I also have to agree with TWOHAND834; I understand about the rules being the rules and that a player can request/demand a test on equipment at any time to be sure it is legal/valid. That is perfectly within their right, and I'd support that. But the fact that it has to do with urethane, and the fact that Rash has had history on his feelings about urethane, this screams more about his main focus being on someone or something else, and the lack of focus on his game. He's essentially complaining about something that for the most is beyond his control, instead of staying in his own lane and running his own race. If there was a problem, it could have been dealt with afterwards, especially if he focused on his game and won on his own merits. That would have not only kept his integrity and held his influence/capital higher, but also given him leverage for his main complaint, in which more fans could have stood behind him.

But he didn't, because he couldn't, so he spent that influence and capital. While everyone is talking about what he has said (and justifiably so), what people aren't talking about is much deeper: the fact that his mental game, especially against urethane, isn't strong. Someone talked about he was possibly trying to get into Russo's head... now, not just PBA bowlers, but every bowler can get into Rash's head by simply putting a Pitch Black, Purple Hammer, a Tank, all three Black Widow Urethanes, and everything Faball on the ball return. That screams to me that a lack of mental game is there, especially regarding urethane, and he can't, hasn't, or doesn't want to address it.

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I’m sorry but all of his complaining about urethane lost all credibility as he now looks like the biggest hypocrite ever.
https://twitter.com/sean_rash/status/1482551708182007814?s=21

Neither the UC2 nor the Zen are urethane.  If he was bragging about using a UC3, I could see the hypocrisy argument...


Sorry wrong clip. Here you go.
https://twitter.com/sean_rash/status/1482448803760427009?s=21
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Re: Sean Rash
« Reply #194 on: January 27, 2022, 02:50:57 PM »
I will add one more thing about this and then call it quits.  Had Rash just made the blanket comment and left it at that it wouldnt have been as big a deal.  It was what he said after that and then doubled down on it during the interview with Kimberly.  The facts that he said "I dont give a s..t" and then in the interview said it was going to cost him and he didnt care is what makes this 100 times worse. 

If he would have mumbled something like "Figures he used a Purple Hammer" and called it quits, we would have just considered it what we already know about him and that is he is a whiner and life goes on.  But the fact he used profanity again and then said he didnt care; is what made this a much bigger story.  I wonder of the fine is undisclosed because it is so small its basically a slap on the wrist (maybe like his winnings for the week?).  A particular scene in Happy Gilmore comes to mind when I think about this.

PGA Commish:  "You will be fined $25,000 and suspended 1 month."
Shooter McGavin:  "SUSPENDED!!!!  Kick him off the tour."

That's why I brought up the other incidents. Holman got $2500 and 9 tournaments for breaking the light at the foul line. Burton got 6 months for hitting someone. PDW didn't hit anyone; it was only his conduct that sin binned him for a year. This is light for Rash.

But I also have to agree with TWOHAND834; I understand about the rules being the rules and that a player can request/demand a test on equipment at any time to be sure it is legal/valid. That is perfectly within their right, and I'd support that. But the fact that it has to do with urethane, and the fact that Rash has had history on his feelings about urethane, this screams more about his main focus being on someone or something else, and the lack of focus on his game. He's essentially complaining about something that for the most is beyond his control, instead of staying in his own lane and running his own race. If there was a problem, it could have been dealt with afterwards, especially if he focused on his game and won on his own merits. That would have not only kept his integrity and held his influence/capital higher, but also given him leverage for his main complaint, in which more fans could have stood behind him.

But he didn't, because he couldn't, so he spent that influence and capital. While everyone is talking about what he has said (and justifiably so), what people aren't talking about is much deeper: the fact that his mental game, especially against urethane, isn't strong. Someone talked about he was possibly trying to get into Russo's head... now, not just PBA bowlers, but every bowler can get into Rash's head by simply putting a Pitch Black, Purple Hammer, a Tank, all three Black Widow Urethanes, and everything Faball on the ball return. That screams to me that a lack of mental game is there, especially regarding urethane, and he can't, hasn't, or doesn't want to address it.

BL.


I’m sorry but all of his complaining about urethane lost all credibility as he now looks like the biggest hypocrite ever.
https://twitter.com/sean_rash/status/1482551708182007814?s=21

Neither the UC2 nor the Zen are urethane.  If he was bragging about using a UC3, I could see the hypocrisy argument...


Sorry wrong clip. Here you go.
https://twitter.com/sean_rash/status/1482448803760427009?s=21

Now that's funny.  Although he bowled way better with the Wolverine.  It is no secret that he doesn't like urethane and doesn't bowl well with urethane.  But you are correct, he really shouldn't complain about it and then also use it.

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Re: Sean Rash
« Reply #195 on: January 27, 2022, 02:51:14 PM »
So what's the deal with someone asking about equipment being checked?  Who requested? Who's equipment?  Was a problem found? At one of the regional finals for the PBA Championship this weekend?