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lefty50

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Soaker advantage?
« on: November 11, 2008, 10:42:37 AM »
I always wanted to ask, so here we go...

A serious problem with many balls today is the fact that they absorb oil. This being true, why would a soaker coverstock be an advantage? I can see removing oil from the surface, sure, but my microfiber cloth does that...

Really like the specs on the S75 and heavily thinking about giving 900 a try, but would like to hear more about the soaker advantage???

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charlest

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Re: Soaker advantage?
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2008, 10:52:28 PM »
From the Dyno-Thane Soaker days:

The Soakers are balls that do not allow oil to affect the ball's performance for a MUCH longer period of time than the average coverstock and SIGNIFICANTLY longer than today's oil suckers.

If I recall correctly, 200 - 300 games is not unusual before Soakers need to have the oil removed and before they begin to show signs of performance reduction. Phil used to urge people to just wash the ball with soap and water from time to time.

The only negative was that most Soakers needed 25 or so games of use before they would "come alive". And roughing up the coverstock did not help at all. It was as if the cover needed to start absorbing oil as a primer before the Soaker would start hooking and hitting. Once they did, they hooked a good deal and strongly.

the bad part was that if you really liked your Soaker from the start, by the time you had 25 games on it, it was going to change and get much stronger.

Many people wondered about their balls UNTIL they got those 25 (20 - 30) games in.
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Elite_Digger

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Re: Soaker advantage?
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2008, 11:46:16 PM »
quote:
From the Dyno-Thane Soaker days:

The Soakers are balls that do not allow oil to affect the ball's performance for a MUCH longer period of time than the average coverstock and SIGNIFICANTLY longer than today's oil suckers.

If I recall correctly, 200 - 300 games is not unusual before Soakers need to have the oil removed and before they begin to show signs of performance reduction. Phil used to urge people to just wash the ball with soap and water from time to time.

The only negative was that most Soakers needed 25 or so games of use before they would "come alive". And roughing up the coverstock did not help at all. It was as if the cover needed to start absorbing oil as a primer before the Soaker would start hooking and hitting. Once they did, they hooked a good deal and strongly.

the bad part was that if you really liked your Soaker from the start, by the time you had 25 games on it, it was going to change and get much stronger.

Many people wondered about their balls UNTIL they got those 25 (20 - 30) games in.
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Amen Charlest....I couldn't have summed it up better myself. My Thing Returns needed about 20-30 games before I saw it react consistently. Once it did, the Soaker coverstocks are the bomb...consistent and long lasting. I easily have over 400 games on my first one and it may not "snap" as hard, but still easily covers as many boards as new....
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LaneHammer20

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Re: Soaker advantage?
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2008, 06:49:28 AM »
Ya my element NE10 only has like 10 games on it, it seems to be getting a little stronger as I go and a little more consistent. The first few games had me scratching my head with inconsistency. i cant wait to get about 30 games on the ball.

BTW do you guys clean your soakers when they are new after bowling? I have been cleaning mine after bowling, maybe that will make it take more time to reach full potential.
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Re: Soaker advantage?
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2008, 07:55:34 AM »
Many balls on the market today begin to lose performance after 30 games, the soakers just start to wake up. As many have told us 200-300 games is not uncommon before you have to deep clean them than you can basically start the count over again.
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Scraps Z

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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2008, 08:11:18 AM »
Wow...this would've been good to know 3 months ago.  I was pretty ticked off when my Break Pearl covered more boards than my S75 both drilled identical 4x4.5.  After going about 10 games and trying everything from 1-4k Abralon I gave up on the S75...Flebay'd it and got the Break Solid.  I can say I'm VERY happy with the Break Solid but had I known, I would've put more games on the S75 before tossing my hands up in the air and smiling as I dropped it off at the UPS store.  
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newguy

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Re: Soaker advantage?
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2008, 08:28:25 AM »
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Wow...this would've been good to know 3 months ago.  I was pretty ticked off when my Break Pearl covered more boards than my S75 both drilled identical 4x4.5.  After going about 10 games and trying everything from 1-4k Abralon I gave up on the S75...Flebay'd it and got the Break Solid.  I can say I'm VERY happy with the Break Solid but had I known, I would've put more games on the S75 before tossing my hands up in the air and smiling as I dropped it off at the UPS store.  
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S75 is stronger and smoother than the Break Pearl, most likely there was not enough on the lanes to make it store and flip down the lane.
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RevLefty

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Re: Soaker advantage?
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2008, 08:29:18 AM »
scraps i had same issue i thought same thing about s75 but i hung in there and now mine is just a complete monster too bad that you got rid of it but yes the break solid is more than enough for most heavy ths shots.
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Scraps Z

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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2008, 08:33:28 AM »
Your not the first to say that, Phil.    I thought I would be able to tell if a ball was 'burning' up early but apparently not with the S75.  Oh well...everything happens for a reason.  Since going to the Break Solid my avg went from 174 to 203 on what is turning out to be a difficult pattern for our league.  THANKS for the great products!
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Scraps Z

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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2008, 08:39:48 AM »
No worries, RevLefty...if this was back in the day I might pick up another S75 or Bounty for tournys.  But with work and family, play time is limited.  I am a one house bowler...rolling league one night and practice on Sundays.  Once the kids get a bit older, I hope to be able to bowl more on a wider range of patterns.
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crankncrash

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Re: Soaker advantage?
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2008, 09:27:53 PM »
Funny story, the guy formerly (maybe still) known as curly was having such a time with his Element that he litterally took a rag with lane condtioner on it and slathered it on the ball.. it seemed to work too!  The perks of working in an alley I guess haha.  Mine I got used, BEAST of a ball right there.  Also had the Anomaly, which it certainly followed its name, for some that ball was nuts, others, not so good.. I liked it, but certainly did not see the HUGE hook that some did... IDK maybe I didn't use that enough. Seems as though global has had more instant success with the soaker than dyno..
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Re: Soaker advantage?
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2008, 09:51:36 AM »
Wow I really could not imagine my S75 being anymore than it is now with only about 6 games on it, mine is a beast already!
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