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Impending Doom

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Urethane vs short pin
« on: November 19, 2019, 03:30:49 PM »
I've been thinking about how to best showcase the differences with this.

Then, I remembered that we have the ability to compare and contrast!

Would anyone be interested in seeing the difference between a Honey Badger Urethane and a short pin to pap Claw or Money Badger Tour? I'm leaning more towards a Claw because the core is exactly the same as the HBU.

Drill the urethane 50*4*40, Drill the reactive 50*1.5*40. Angles would be the same, just the pin to pap would be different.

What say you, 900 G brothers and sisters?

 

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Re: Urethane vs short pin
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2019, 03:43:28 PM »
I think that'd be a great comparison with the Claw. Like you said, core is exactly the same

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Re: Urethane vs short pin
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2019, 11:59:50 PM »
Yes please! I'd love to see a real world application of this.
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Re: Urethane vs short pin
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2019, 06:29:32 AM »
Great idea.  Do It!

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Re: Urethane vs short pin
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2019, 08:53:36 AM »
Whatever you do, narrate it in the voice of Kip.....or Rex.
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Re: Urethane vs short pin
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2019, 09:25:41 AM »
Whatever you do, narrate it in the voice of Kip.....or Rex.

Shall I flip a coin?

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Re: Urethane vs short pin
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2019, 01:00:14 PM »
It would be interesting to see this, but I feel I can confidently state my opinion: Short pin to PAP does not replace/compare close enough to urethane - despite what people like Mo Pinel say.

I've thrown many balls with short pins, anywhere from true pin axis to 2.5". I've also thrown many urethane balls. I've done so with both options both one handed and two handed. Outside of a few exceptions, the reactions haven't been close enough to use short pins on reactive instead of urethane. Each have their place.

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Re: Urethane vs short pin
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2019, 03:14:48 PM »
Hey Doom if u do this what reactive ball u gonna use? Also I believe
To be fair test you need to put them at same grit.  I have done this before
And as the poster above me has said they are different and have their place
I believe a lot depends on ball and surface. I prefer the reactive with short pin to pap vs urethane   but I understand why some people believe they need urethane. And yes I have enough have to throw urethane.

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Re: Urethane vs short pin
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2019, 04:30:21 PM »
Interested in seeing the difference in carry. I don't want to see and edited strike fest.
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Re: Urethane vs short pin
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2019, 08:58:45 AM »
Nothing really to add that hasn't already been mentioned
 but would love to see this video. I'm both a urethane and short pin enthusiast due to my slow speed and being very rev dominant.

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Re: Urethane vs short pin
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2019, 12:01:10 PM »
I will take a weaker reactive with a two inch pin over a urethane any day of the week.

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Re: Urethane vs short pin
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2019, 01:49:54 PM »
I have to be honest,I used to think urethane was a good option until I put an 8k surface on my black x. That thing has been my savior
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Re: Urethane vs short pin
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2019, 02:17:00 PM »
No question,  urethane is way over used at the league level.  Having said that, every serious player should have one in their bag.  How and when they use it will depend on their style. 

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Re: Urethane vs short pin
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2019, 11:59:11 PM »
No question,  urethane is way over used at the league level.  Having said that, every serious player should have one in their bag.  How and when they use it will depend on their style. 

Why do u think that? Because u see pba guys use it?   I'm a "serious player" who has won many of tourneys and never carried urethane     it's a craze right now because so many pba guys are using them    I see atleast 5-7 league bowlers trying to use them with zero success

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Re: Urethane vs short pin
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2019, 07:41:21 AM »
Until I see someone use urethane playing deep inside with success; I am staying with weaker reactive and 2 inch pin to PAP.  So far I havent seen anyone including PBA guys get deeper than the second arrow.  Always seem to be playing the outside part of the lane.  I believe there is more versatility with the reactive short pin than urethane; at least from what I have seen.
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