The AMF Grip is the perfect compliment to the Bank Roll. While the Bank Roll is a smoother continuous, arcing motion, the Grip is more of a snapping motion and lays off a little on the backend. With the surface and layout I have on this ball, it starts up a little bit earlier than the Bank Roll, but does not hook as much overall. I found success with this ball on most fresh patterns because it reads the heavy oil very well. I also found success playing the gutter on more difficult patterns when the outside boards are not hooking so much. For example, I used it on a 39 foot European Sport Pattern the other day playing right up two, three, four. The ball would make a nice stable motion off the corner, but then lay off just perfect for playing these extreme outside angles.