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DP3

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AMF is about to make the ball that will KILL the bowling industry.
« on: October 05, 2004, 01:14:17 PM »
They're using this new epoxy cover which is a completely different material ever put on a bowling ball.  Brian Voss threw a testball using the cover at Bowl Expo and it was in the left gutter at 45 feet AFTER they triple oiled the lanes and the Triumph TNT went straight as a dart.  The ball is a light blue/white swirl which looks very reminiscent of the old Omega and get this....

....it comes with a "built in" resurface meter.  Now that seems a little far fetched and complex but it's really not.  The ball literally soaks in oil.  You can drop a few drops of lane oil on the ball and watch it dissolve into the coverstock.  What I mean by built in resurfacing meter is that the more you use it the darker color of blue your track will get.  After about 100 games, the track will become a noticable dark navy blue than the rest of the ball, then you have to resurface it.  After the fresh resurfacing you will get about another 50-75 games out of it, then after that one about 30-50 games, then after that it's done, you'll have to get a new one.  

There's no word on when they will release this ball or coverstock concept, but if they do, no center will be able to create a colume big enough to warrant this ball.  Even if they did, every other ball would become obsolete and there would be a race between companies to copy this type of material.

What does everyone think about this?
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Re: AMF is about to make the ball that will KILL the bowling industry.
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2004, 10:45:57 AM »
You didn't read the quote they are going to make 9 irons also, not just drivers!

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Re: AMF is about to make the ball that will KILL the bowling industry.
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2004, 12:27:08 PM »
Thank you Lucky
Again there are people making noise about something they don't understand.
As Lefty said,they will be making 2 types of the Epoxy balls to cover all the bowlers.
They(AMF)already know that the Epoxy mix can not be strong and will not serve the purpose of making a ball that would never sell because the centers could not apply the lane conditioner to handle that type of ball.

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Re: AMF is about to make the ball that will KILL the bowling industry.
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2011, 11:34:13 AM »
Is the bowling industry still alive?
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Re: AMF is about to make the ball that will KILL the bowling industry.
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2011, 11:40:41 AM »
Holy repost Batman!!!!

 

For those that don't know...

 

It was the Epoxy resin balls put out by Columbia that they are talking about.

 

Honestly, if they had worked to make the cover less brittle and less high maintanance, they would have had a winner on their hands..

 

 


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Re: AMF is about to make the ball that will KILL the bowling industry.
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2011, 12:02:09 PM »
in reality it wasnt the complete industry that was killed, but it put such a huge hit into columbia's cheque book, less than 3 years later columbia300 as a company would soon become unrecognizable.....


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Re: AMF is about to make the ball that will KILL the bowling industry.
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2011, 12:08:55 PM »
Why would you make a ball that hooks this much? Everything made hooks to much as it is.

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« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2011, 12:09:11 PM »
You got that right!  But without those changes we may have never had a company like 900Global.
 
TheDude wrote on 2/17/2011 1:02 PM:
in reality it wasnt the complete industry that was killed, but it put such a huge hit into columbia's cheque book, less than 3 years later columbia300 as a company would soon become unrecognizable.....


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Re: AMF is about to make the ball that will KILL the bowling industry.
« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2011, 12:43:14 PM »
7 year bump

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Re: AMF is about to make the ball that will KILL the bowling industry.
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2011, 01:47:18 PM »
And why do people want a ball that is in the gutter at 45 feet on a triple oiled shot?
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Re: AMF is about to make the ball that will KILL the bowling industry.
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2011, 02:11:00 PM »

 



nmbr1sun99 wrote on 2/17/2011 2:47 PM:And why do people want a ball that is in the gutter at 45 feet on a triple oiled shot?

Piece of mind!! Just in case, you never know when you might encounter a shot like this......Some people would want this type of ball for natl's and others would die to have this ball to use on a THS
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Re: AMF is about to make the ball that will KILL the bowling industry.
« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2011, 02:55:20 PM »
 I think Columbia screwed the pooch on this opportunity. They rushed something into production without the proper extent of testing, using A.M.F. for a guinea pig, then trying to grab all the glory.
 

 I think it's funny that this was, more than likely, the straw that broke the camels back.

 

 I also hate having 6 year old topics surface.

 

 Stop it.


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Re: AMF is about to make the ball that will KILL the bowling industry.
« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2011, 03:23:35 PM »
This story reminds me on Columbias EPX and if I remember correctly this ball was one of the biggest flops on the market...
I think the chemists of BASF can easily make a stronger cover when the industry asks for it.
BUT remember a strong cover is not everything, a lot of people want to hook the entire lane but without having a hand on the ball.
Remember those hooking monsters from the past and the bowlingindustrie build every year a stronger cover and hardly anyone needs it.


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Re: AMF is about to make the ball that will KILL the bowling industry.
« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2011, 06:01:50 PM »
Sorry, I was looking for a topic about soaker and for some reason this topic came up.

 

I remember reading at the time that the AMF "team" was doing all the research and was going to get the release, but Columbia took it with the EPX instead.  They made it sound like it had been thoroughly tested, so the issues with EPX seemed like a surprise.  Considering AMF was just a name licensee, I guess everybody was technically working for the same company.

 

The ball description even says they spent more than 8 years in research and testing......maybe most of that was research and very little testing?  http://columbia300.com/products/detail_retired_balls/epx_t1/

 

Actually, AMF did get a release with the epoxy cover - Project X.  It was an international release with the epoxy cover and the TNT core.  It was purple in color - not sure what the difference was in colors, but one was supposed to hook more than the other.  I managed to get my hands on one, but never drilled it up.  Figured I never see enough oil as it is, why would I want/need a super oil ball?
 



Juggernaut wrote on 2/18/2011 3:55 PM:
 I think Columbia screwed the pooch on this opportunity. They rushed something into production without the proper extent of testing, using A.M.F. for a guinea pig, then trying to grab all the glory.

 


 I think it's funny that this was, more than likely, the straw that broke the camels back.


 


 I also hate having 6 year old topics surface.


 


 Stop it.



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Re: AMF is about to make the ball that will KILL the bowling industry.
« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2011, 06:14:35 PM »
Back in 2004  ay.

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