Okay, i finally got one, 14 lbs, 2 oz; 3" pin. I know it has the same coverstock used in the AMP (my all time fav ball), i'm hoping the same particle load, the specs are relatively the same, w/the exception of the core (bell vs. triumph). My pro shop guy says my amp was drilled pin at one oclock, touching the ring finger, w/the mb about 1 inch left of thumbhole. Now w/that drilling, the ball was pretty strong, i guess due to the particle grabbing the lane. the entry angle was great (far less 10 pins). I'm looking for that again, maybe just a tad stronger (i throw about 15 mph now vs. 13.5-14 when i got the amp, plus i throw on sythetics now). Any drilling suggestions? I really don't want a weighthole added, just want a long and strong finishing ball.