Author Topic: For all of those whom think the Black Widow is a good ball... (Read 21474 times)

strikezone_sanantonio · « **on:** July 12, 2007, 10:41:03 AM »

THE BREAK by 900 Global will be out this month. Did the test about 3 weeks ago with Eric and punched the certified one today and WOW! The Break comes 4000 Abralon sanded and tested it that way with a 5 X 4 1/2 drill. It rolled up much more than the BW head to head and had more drive off the spot. We polished it up with rubbing compound and then with polish and the BW finally stood up to the performance of the Break. The Break will be one of the best balls produced this year at an affordable price - just thought I'd get this out before Bowler's Journal or BTM did.
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strikezone_sanantonio · « **Reply #31 on:** July 19, 2007, 04:17:18 PM »

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1st of all you compared ball's not company's...now you're comparing company's not ball's?....HELLO

2nd...the sr300 was the highest rated ball ever by BTM...

yet one of fastest ever to be discontinued...Hmmm...and not used much on pba as well...several different conclusion's could be made or infered....but every--one will have a different take...

as far as the break being better than BW...

you'll have to pardon us while we wait to see more EVIDENCE on the NEXT
BIG/GREAT/AWESOME/WHATEVER thing!!!!!!!

I have written very specific about this topic. The last reply that I made was by means of your comment about the Black Widow having the most telecasts. The same could be said about the Storm Agent, because I do remember a lot of guys throwing that ball on TV more than the BW. I wasn't trying to put a spin on anything and if I confused you or anyone else I'm sorry. Ohhh...about the NEXT, 900 Global had the name before Ebonite did.
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azproputt · « **Reply #32 on:** July 19, 2007, 04:30:16 PM »

[quoteI have written very specific about this topic. The last reply that I made was by means of your comment about the Black Widow having the most telecasts. The same could be said about the Storm Agent, because I do remember a lot of guys throwing that ball on TV more than the BW. --------------------
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I was going to say the same thing. I saw a hell of a lot more Agents on TV than Black Widows, but not a whole lot of other Hammers (a few Vibes, a couple of Hawgzillas, and a couple No Mercys), whereas you saw lots of other Storms being used.... Spitfires, Dominations, Paradigms, Fired Ups, Shifts, Special Agents.... Recheck your math.

sammy the sage · « **Reply #33 on:** July 19, 2007, 05:22:16 PM »

"".... Recheck your math. ""

Duh...we were writing about a specific ball...NOT company's...

storm over-all probably did best...

but the BW...I'll stand by my original statement...you really outta check your math!

sammy the sage · « **Reply #34 on:** July 19, 2007, 05:33:07 PM »

all you got to do is check pba..."in the bag" section...

you'll see BW started in the master's...ended up in the world champioship's

I'll let you count the # of show's BW vs Agent...of course you can cheat..and add up ALL the different agent's used as one ball...that might interesting!

still...let's see what 'Break' is gonna do!

by the way...who is doing manufacturing for global?

How did this turn into a storm lovefest also?...lol's

strikezone_sanantonio · « **Reply #35 on:** July 19, 2007, 08:19:36 PM »

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all you got to do is check pba..."in the bag" section...

you'll see BW started in the master's...ended up in the world champioship's

I'll let you count the # of show's BW vs Agent...of course you can cheat..and add up ALL the different agent's used as one ball...that might interesting!

still...let's see what 'Break' is gonna do!

by the way...who is doing manufacturing for global?

How did this turn into a storm lovefest also?...lol's

You know what I just went ahead and took your advice and went to the "in the bag" section. I counted specifically THE AGENT - not double or special - which I counted (10) to the Black Widow which had (

. As I've said before, Storm is only making the Break for right now up until full production is up and running for 900 Global. 900 Global felt Storm could produce them a better benchmark ball than any other company and i tend to agree.

That's that and everyone have a good evening.
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spinner031 · « **Reply #36 on:** July 19, 2007, 08:26:21 PM »

Will there be a bowler next season throwing all 900 Global balls?

sammy the sage · « **Reply #37 on:** July 20, 2007, 05:50:16 AM »

kudo's...wow...the agent was on 11 times actually...my bad...

although when you think about it...the quality/&/quantity of the storm STAFF is far superior OVER-ALL to that of hammer...

speaks volume's in and of itself...

HOWEVER...back to the original topic

that make's the break better than the BW...HOW?

or global 900 better than hammer or storm...HOW?

qstick777 · « **Reply #38 on:** July 20, 2007, 03:01:17 PM »

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kudo's...wow...the agent was on 11 times actually...my bad...

although when you think about it...the quality/&/quantity of the storm STAFF is far superior OVER-ALL to that of hammer...

speaks volume's in and of itself...

HOWEVER...back to the original topic

that make's the break better than the BW...HOW?

or global 900 better than hammer or storm...HOW?

I think we ran into some linguistical problems along the way. I don't remember anybody ever saying the Break was BETTER than another ball, or that 900 Global was BETTER than another company.

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It rolled up much more than the BW head to head and had more drive off the spot. We polished it up with rubbing compound and then with polish and the BW finally stood up to the performance of the Break. The Break will be one of the best balls produced this year at an affordable price

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Overall we just found the Break to be much more versatile on the lanes.

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9, 9.5, 9.5 is correct I had too many ratings. BTW the BW is a great ball no doubt, sales have proven that. My question is how much money have you made from all the balls on TV? Unless you are a shop and sell only what is thrown on tv it may not be as helpful. They have a great staff and the ball worked great on tour again no dispute here, how many tour stops and tour condition have you bowled? We can only be happy with our own product and we are not trying to compete or duplicate with any other companies balls or their performance. We make balls for our own supporters, for their own arsenals.I've done that a few times in my life and have been as I'm told lucky to have a fair ball or two in my day.
BTM rated the balls not us, we are only relating what we were told. We are very happy with our first launch and believe it is only the start of something great. We should begin shipping the week of the 23rd (keeping my finger crossed).

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Juggernaut · « **Reply #39 on:** July 22, 2007, 03:27:55 PM »

SO, let me got this right.

1. The BW is a great ball
2. The Break matches up well to it, and in fact, covers the heavier condition better in both balls O.O.B. finish
3. The Break has recieved the higherst rating ever from BTM magazine.
4. Katel likes the BW.

Sounds to me like you've got two really good balls here. Being no two balls are IDENTICAL, one has to be a little different at something, so the break is better ( a bit ) on heavier conditions, in box finish, that the BW.

Given that the Break is just new and out on the market, curiosity will be high as to what it is comparable to. From all this, I gather that, once again, Phil has proven his ability to design and produce a top-notch, perofrmance ball that is going to be comparable to one of the so called "established" best balls on the market. In fact, the "Ball of the Year" for 2006.

Not bad for an initial release, huh? Wonder what he will produce with a little more practice?

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Den Olano · « **Reply #40 on:** July 22, 2007, 04:02:21 PM »

Bo,
Who is making the G-Force SuperNova for Lane 1 right now?

williewc · « **Reply #41 on:** July 22, 2007, 07:50:58 PM »

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Bo,
Who is making the G-Force SuperNova for Lane 1 right now?

900 Global
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Rileybowler · « **Reply #42 on:** July 22, 2007, 07:59:20 PM »

Everytime someone makes a ball its allways the best the Black Widow is a proven winner incidently I don't own one either. Time will tell I hope you're not going to do the Lane1 mumbo jumbo about we couldn't pay the money so it couldn't be on the show but like I said time will tell
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revTrex · « **Reply #43 on:** July 23, 2007, 02:32:30 PM »

From what I have been told about PBA registration...wait and see...costs are going up almost every year in that department, and the PBA can be a real stickler when it comes to deals. Provided that 900G and AMF raise the income needed, I don't see any reason why they wouldn't...but the income, as I said, has to come first. They just started out again, so some time is needed, naturally.

EDIT: I DON'T know about the shoes. Send ET a pm or email him, or try Bo, etc. Sorry!

Edited on 7/23/2007 2:34 PM

strikezone_sanantonio · « **Reply #44 on:** July 24, 2007, 11:58:44 AM »

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Is 900 Global, (balls and shoes) going to be registered with the PBA?

I will check.
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Edited on 7/24/2007 11:59 AM

williewc · « **Reply #45 on:** July 24, 2007, 10:36:00 PM »

Phil said the shoes would be registered for next year, didnt say anything about the balls though, he said that about the shoes several months ago though so things might have changed
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