I got one of the "burgandy" ones off of ebay. Drilled it with the pin at 1:30, which is about 3 1/2 by 3 1/2 for me (my PAP is rt only 4 3/8 and down 5/8) and that thing comes back from about anywhere. My first practice session I was standing as far left as I could, throwing 15-18 at the arrows, and it was going out to about 3, then turned hard and fast for the pocket - AWSOME! I can only used it on a fresh shot by staying in where the heaviest oil is, and I don't dare slow it down or it's gone!
Really can't wait to find a house with seriously heavy oil to try it on!
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SEMPER FI!