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GargoyleFlunkie

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Layout question about Radar
« on: November 14, 2006, 01:25:29 PM »
I ordered a Radar and a supreme justice pearl recently, and was wondering if i stacked the the pin above and to the right of the ring finger how would the radar react based on a ths.

 

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Re: Layout question about Radar
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2006, 10:00:10 PM »
Depending on your PAP, I would say that (on average, assuming you don't track super high or super low), the Radar will get down the lane some and pick up in the midlane, and then make a powerful backend move.  Not as strong as "stacked-leverage" but still quite strong, too many dry boards could cause it to over-react or have an over-under reaction (again, depending on your PAP).

Hope this helps!  The Radar is a great ball!
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Bar5003

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Re: Layout question about Radar
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2006, 06:10:20 AM »
I agree with revTrex on this one...if your shot has any type of wet/dry i would put the pin a little lower if you are able to...it will help even out the reaction...

if you want to put the pin high you can, just throw it and if the reaction is a little "funny" don't be afraid to put some surface on it....i took mine down to 2000 abralon, and its a much better match up for my game

dont be afraid to experiment!
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Re: Layout question about Radar
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2006, 07:14:01 AM »
I would agree & disagree on this. assumeing your a semi high tracker it would be close to a 4 or 4-1/2 pin to pap and depending on your span it would put the pin around the 4" above the midline position wich would make it more jumpy of the spot/dry. This would be a very flippy drill. Now I would disagree on putting the pin lower if you keep the core angle in the strong position it will still be flippy it would just read the lane a touch sooner and have less push when it hits the friction. What type of reaction are you looking for and what are you wanting the ball to do for you. Seeing how you have the SJP I would stray away from a flip drilling on the radar and make it a bench mark ball for you. I would (if it were me) Put the pin 4-1/2-5" from pap up or down depending on you house shot and the condition of your heads and midlanes and twist the cg to a moderate arc/flip strong move 45* position. On the SJP I would go pin high 4" above midline and 5-1/2 - 6" from pap and depending on the break point shape your looking for pick a cg position for it. To me the SJP is more flippy so it doesnt need alot of help to do so. Again it is best to have an idea of what your wanting these two to do before you drill them so maybe post back what your looking for and maybe others can help out also.

Bar5003

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Re: Layout question about Radar
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2006, 08:18:46 AM »
With the drillings tech support suggested you should get a good reaction...the only thing i would worry about is keeping the pin 5" from your pap, 5" pin to pap balls usually push a little to far down the lane before they make their move for me to be my benchmark...i do agree with the cg position tho...for a benchmark i tend to go more like 4" from my pap so it flares a touch more...again thats just a personal prefrence!!

everyone is different!

when it comes to the SJP compared to the radar they are two different ball motions in my eyes with the SJP being VERY skid snap and the Radar being more of a controled flip/arc in the back...

like tech said once we know what you are looking for and what your desired reactions are more people may be able to jump in!
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GargoyleFlunkie

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Re: Layout question about Radar
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2006, 10:52:19 AM »
i was pretty much looking to get the radar to replace my visionary violet gargoyle as my benchmark ball.  All the houses i bowl at for regular league and travel, use hpl lanes if its a amf house or pro anvil lanes.  The reaction i was looking for out of this ball would be, pretty much any drilling that will let the ball get down the lane on a medium-dry ths.  I forgot what drilling it was that was mentioned, but the one that described how it might push the ball too far down the lane probably would work ok for me, due to i tend to like to play around 20-15 with my feet and anywhere between 12-8 at the arrows at my regular home house league.  Hopefully this will help out a little more than my first post.

btw bar, what is your ball speed a majority of the time if you happen to know off hand?

Edited on 11/15/2006 11:46 AM

Bar5003

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Re: Layout question about Radar
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2006, 11:16:32 AM »
My ball speed is about 15-16 mph at the pins

If what you described is the case I would go with tech supports (pin up) drill for the radar…If your shot is a true med-dry house shot you will benefit from the added length…plus this layout allow you to set up an arsenal around this ball, it will be easy to get something more aggressive than the radar (ball and layout wise)…should be a good go-to ball keep us updated

Also if you end up liking the radar and want something a little earlier with a little more pop check out the radar lock! great ball!

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Edited on 11/15/2006 12:08 PM