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OTBTbowler

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Bull Whip finish
« on: March 13, 2004, 05:32:56 AM »
Does anyone know what the box finish was on the Bull Whip,other than polished?
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charlest

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Re: Bull Whip finish
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2004, 08:38:25 PM »
Since this was, I believe, manufactured by Columbia, I'd be surprised if it did not follow their standard for resin pearls: sanded to 500 grit, then polished to 2000 grit.
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Re: Bull Whip finish
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2004, 10:29:19 PM »
The Bull Whip was hand buffed, not machine polished.  While this doesn't rule out a 2000 polished finish, I don't think that it was that high. This may have been one of the last balls manufactured by Ebonite for AMF.  It came out about a month after the Pearl Whip, which had the same coverstock as the Swirl, Ultra/C and Ultra/C Pearl, which were Ebonite manufactured balls.
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Re: Bull Whip finish
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2004, 06:23:47 AM »
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This may have been one of the last balls manufactured by Ebonite for AMF.  It came out about a month after the Pearl Whip, which had the same coverstock as the Swirl, Ultra/C and Ultra/C Pearl, which were Ebonite manufactured balls.
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I didn't know that. Thanks.
I am fairly certain that the next balls, the Whiplash series, were manufactured by Columbia. The weak cover and the strong core combo on the Bull Whip is not a staple of Columbia's designs and manufactures.
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Re: Bull Whip finish
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2004, 07:24:06 AM »
Claymore,

And yet my friend still has his and loves it; has had a ton of honor scores with it. Gotta use the right ball on the right condition and all that rot.
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Re: Bull Whip finish
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2004, 10:49:30 PM »
charlest-The Whip Lash had a Super Flex cover, so it was Columbia manufactured.
Claymore-I used my Bull Whip on a tough condition last night.  It was carrying off hits all night.  In three games, I left one 10 pin.  I was even picking up spares by knocking messengers off the walls!  

The ball does need to be resurfaced now, and I would like to know the NIB surface if anyone can tell me.
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Re: Bull Whip finish
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2004, 06:39:19 AM »
OTBTbowler wrote:

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charlest-The Whip Lash had a Super Flex cover, so it was Columbia manufactured.


Yep, that I knew. I suspected the Bull Whip was also SuperFlex, but now I know otherwise, as you said it was made by Ebonite.

Ebonite's current strategy for finishing pearls is to sand to 800 grit and polish to about 1500 grit. I cannot say if it was the same back then. If you cannot ascertain exactly what the finish should be, I would suggest a 600 degree sanding and then a light polish to "eyeball" it back to the shine level of where it started.

(FYI when sanding, many people make the mistake of taking a 600 grit sandpaper and keep pressing and pressing until there's no roughness at all left to the paper. If you do that, you have sanded the ball to a much finer degree than 600. Then it will not have the backend you have come to expect.)

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Re: Bull Whip finish
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2004, 11:59:01 PM »
I have an old ad for the bull whip that says "AMF Lane Lasher reactive veneer, 800-grit matte polish"  This was probably my most favorite ball of all time.  Had to give it up because I went from 16 to 15 lb. Could play on any condition with it.

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Re: Bull Whip finish
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2004, 11:05:42 PM »
Thanks for the information.  I had given up on getting the actual box finish so I wet sanded to 800 and polished.  It seems to work well with this finish. This is also my all time favorite ball.  I seldom leave any 10 pins, and it hits harder than any other ball I've owned.
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Re: Bull Whip finish
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2004, 12:21:57 PM »
I agree with all that has been said here.  The Bull Whip was an absolutely excellent ball.  I've never seen anything with a better knack for carrying the ten pin.  BTM even noted that in their review, and it was absolutely true.  I have two of them, and had to finally give them up because like bobs300 I went from 16# to 15#.  I tried one of them recently anyway, but found that the extra weight threw my timing off, and timing is something I have to work at constantly anyway, so I couldn't afford to risk it.

They now reside in my small hall of fame, surrounded by riff-raff that were never able to live up to their standard.

Shiv
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