Author Topic: I'm about to get a Villian... (Read 3222 times)

cudaskater123 · « **on:** November 27, 2008, 08:12:55 AM »

and here is the pic of the ball:

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/hawgwild66/DSCN1681-1.jpg

What kind of reaction would I expect to get out of this piece? About me, I have medium to high speed and medium to high revs. I am probably considered a stroker. My game is kind of like Chris Barnes'. Same style.

Thanks for the help,

Ricky
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Ricky Michaels

It''s like the pins have a restraining order against me.

Formerly known as Mister High Speed Himself,

charlest · « **Reply #1 on:** November 27, 2008, 04:37:19 PM »

Some additional info that might help people better answer your question:
- PAP
- tilt
- rotation
- oil amount on which it'll be used.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."

cudaskater123 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 27, 2008, 04:46:27 PM »

quote:
Some additional info that might help people better answer your question:
- PAP
- tilt
- rotation
- oil amount on which it'll be used.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."

Oh yeah, sorry about that. All I really know is that the ball would be used on a little less than heavy oil. So, probably true medium. And I am not sure about my PAP, tilt, or rotation. Sorry. So nobody would be able to answer this without that info?
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Ricky Michaels

It's like the pins have a restraining order against me.

Formerly known as Mister High Speed Himself,

noturcuzin · « **Reply #3 on:** November 27, 2008, 04:50:15 PM »

quote:
quote:
Some additional info that might help people better answer your question:
- PAP
- tilt
- rotation
- oil amount on which it'll be used.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."

Oh yeah, sorry about that. All I really know is that the ball would be used on a little less than heavy oil. So, probably true medium. And I am not sure about my PAP, tilt, or rotation. Sorry. So nobody would be able to answer this without that info?
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Ricky Michaels

It's like the pins have a restraining order against me.

Formerly known as Mister High Speed Himself,

Contact the user clovismaul. He drills my bowling balls, he's a great guy. Anyway, he loves AMF and owns a Villian. He could probably tell you.
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CHRIS FARLEY:1964-1997
JOHN CANDY:1950-1994
JOHN BELUSHI:1949-1982

"NO RESPECT, I GET NO RESPECT."-the great Rodney Dangerfield

InSite Bowling Products:2004-2008

noturcuzin · « **Reply #4 on:** November 27, 2008, 04:53:32 PM »

Oh, it may take him a few days to answer you on here so if you want the phone number to his shop, I can give it to you. He is there anyday but Holiday's and Sunday's.
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CHRIS FARLEY:1964-1997
JOHN CANDY:1950-1994
JOHN BELUSHI:1949-1982

"NO RESPECT, I GET NO RESPECT."-the great Rodney Dangerfield

InSite Bowling Products:2004-2008

cudaskater123 · « **Reply #5 on:** November 27, 2008, 04:56:58 PM »

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Oh, it may take him a few days to answer you on here so if you want the phone number to his shop, I can give it to you. He is there anyday but Holiday's and Sunday's.
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CHRIS FARLEY:1964-1997
JOHN CANDY:1950-1994
JOHN BELUSHI:1949-1982

"NO RESPECT, I GET NO RESPECT."-the great Rodney Dangerfield

InSite Bowling Products:2004-2008

Thanks for the help Jordan. Ill see what kind of answers I can get on here. And if I'm still skeptical, Ill PM you for the phone number. Thanks again
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Ricky Michaels

It's like the pins have a restraining order against me.

Formerly known as Mister High Speed Himself,

noturcuzin · « **Reply #6 on:** November 27, 2008, 04:58:27 PM »

quote:
quote:
Oh, it may take him a few days to answer you on here so if you want the phone number to his shop, I can give it to you. He is there anyday but Holiday's and Sunday's.
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CHRIS FARLEY:1964-1997
JOHN CANDY:1950-1994
JOHN BELUSHI:1949-1982

"NO RESPECT, I GET NO RESPECT."-the great Rodney Dangerfield

InSite Bowling Products:2004-2008

Thanks for the help Jordan. Ill see what kind of answers I can get on here. And if I'm still skeptical, Ill PM you for the phone number. Thanks again
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Ricky Michaels

It's like the pins have a restraining order against me.

Formerly known as Mister High Speed Himself,

No problem, good luck man.
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CHRIS FARLEY:1964-1997
JOHN CANDY:1950-1994
JOHN BELUSHI:1949-1982

"NO RESPECT, I GET NO RESPECT."-the great Rodney Dangerfield

InSite Bowling Products:2004-2008

charlest · « **Reply #7 on:** November 27, 2008, 05:23:54 PM »

quote:
quote:
Some additional info that might help people better answer your question:
- PAP
- tilt
- rotation
- oil amount on which it'll be used.
--------------------
"None are so blind as those who will not see."

Oh yeah, sorry about that. All I really know is that the ball would be used on a little less than heavy oil. So, probably true medium. And I am not sure about my PAP, tilt, or rotation. Sorry. So nobody would be able to answer this without that info?
--------------------
Ricky Michaels

It's like the pins have a restraining order against me.

Formerly known as Mister High Speed Himself,

No, it just helps to have more complete info to draw a truer picture for you.

Near as I know, the ball is ideal for medium oil for the average ball speed and rev rate bowler.
If your ball speed is on the higher side + a medium rev rate, it'll work on the lighter side of medium - medium-light, or you may have stand further outside and play a more direct line.
If your ball speed is medium and rev rate it high, it'll work best on medium-heavy oil or you may have to stand much deeper and play a bigger swing shot.

I've found that drilling with my PAP (5" over , 0 up/down) to be on the strong side: that is, decent length with good deal of overall of hook, but ball speed is slightly slower than average and my rev rate/ball speed is/was slightly higher than average. If your rev rate and ball speed match up fairly well, that drilling is a good general drill: enough length, good hook, plenty of pop at the backend, relatively smooth, not really snappy, depending on your PAP and other details, it can be a control drilling.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."

Edited on 11/27/2008 6:32 PM

cudaskater123 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 27, 2008, 05:26:01 PM »

quote:
quote:
quote:
Some additional info that might help people better answer your question:
- PAP
- tilt
- rotation
- oil amount on which it'll be used.
--------------------
"None are so blind as those who will not see."

Oh yeah, sorry about that. All I really know is that the ball would be used on a little less than heavy oil. So, probably true medium. And I am not sure about my PAP, tilt, or rotation. Sorry. So nobody would be able to answer this without that info?
--------------------
Ricky Michaels

It's like the pins have a restraining order against me.

Formerly known as Mister High Speed Himself,

No, it just helps to have more complete info to draw a truer picture for you.

Near as I know, the ball is ideal for medium oil for the average ball speed and rev rate bowler.
If your ball speed is on the higher side + a medium rev rate, it'll work on the lighter side of medium - medium-light, or yo umay have stnad further outside and play a more direct line.
If your ball speed is medium and rev rate it high, it'll work best on medium-heavy oil or you may have to stand much deeper and play a bigger swing shot.

I've found that drilling with my PAP (5" over , 0 up/down) to be on the stroing side: that is, decent length with good deal of overall of hook, but ball speed is slightly slower than average and my rev rate/ball speed is/was slightly higher than average. If your rev rate and ball speed match up fairly well, that drilling is a good general drill: enough length, good hook, plenty of pop at the backend, relatively smooth, not really snappy, depending on your PAP and other details, it can be a control drilling.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."

Thank you for the detailed information charlest. I appreciate your response.
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Ricky Michaels

It's like the pins have a restraining order against me.

Formerly known as Mister High Speed Himself,

charlest · « **Reply #9 on:** November 27, 2008, 05:35:35 PM »

Sorry for the nasty spelling and editing. I wanted to get it out quick but I just re-edited for readability. And it is rather general. Depending on how far from average your release statistics are, your results may vary (YMMV). Pro drillers should be able to draw you a much better picture than I did.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."

cudaskater123 · « **Reply #10 on:** November 27, 2008, 08:46:07 PM »

quote:
cudaskater123
Go to your driller and ask them about all the needed info Charlest described, heck, while your there, ask them yourself if this ball would work for your game.
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Alright man. Thanks for the reply.
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Ricky Michaels

It's like the pins have a restraining order against me.

Formerly known as Mister High Speed Himself,

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