Thanks for the great replies. Will check out Dexter SST8. Now I got to figure out the new ball spaghetti bowl. I have started research and just wow. I still got my old Columbia Yellow Dot for slick lanes and a Bonanza (dont laugh, I tossed some darn fine series with that puppy) for dry lanes. Only thing you had to know back then was what your ball "punched out as". Low 70s for slick and low 90s for dry. Whats going on nowadays, or past 25 years since I left the game is crazy. Grinned when I saw your ball list Bowler19525. WHITE DOT!!! Something I recognize and a darn fine ball for wood lanes and I suppose spares nowadays. Again, thanks guys, I'll post on the ball thread for advice on that.