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lefty50

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Questions about Motiv Power Gel Scuff
« on: November 23, 2016, 07:40:43 PM »
Two question re: Motiv Power Gel Scuff...

It says cleaner and scouring compound in one...

- What surface does it leave the ball at?
- Does it clean like C&D, or less, or ????

Thanks
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SVstar34

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Re: Questions about Motiv Power Gel Scuff
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2016, 09:10:41 PM »
Surface ends up around 1000.
I've never used C&D but the rags I use with scuff definitely show dirt coming off

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Re: Questions about Motiv Power Gel Scuff
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2016, 11:02:31 PM »
I have used both the power gel scuff and clean and dull; I think clean and dull does a slightly better job at cleaning. But the scuff is still pretty decent.

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Re: Questions about Motiv Power Gel Scuff
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2016, 11:15:06 PM »
Two question re: Motiv Power Gel Scuff...

It says cleaner and scouring compound in one...

- What surface does it leave the ball at?
- Does it clean like C&D, or less, or ????

Thanks


One major difference is that Gel Scuff is an abrasive, while C&D, for the 99% case does not change the surface grit level of the ball. Unless your ball is at the grit level of Scuff (whatever that is), C&D is a safer (for the surface of the ball), though strong and powerful deep cleaner.

I'm not sure what grit level Gel Scuff leaves the ball; I'm pretty sure it's higher than 1000 grit FEPA, but like most abrasive compounds, the harder you press for longer periods of time, the finer the resulting grit level will be.

Motiv can probably tell you what the grit level is when applied by hand. Once you use a spinner to apply it, due to the human factors involved, all bets are off.
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Bowlaholic

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Re: Questions about Motiv Power Gel Scuff
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2016, 08:48:37 AM »
The Bowler's Grit Comparison Chart Version 2 states Motiv Power Gel Scuff is a cleaner and scouring compound 500-1000 grit. 
I don't know what the actual grit ends up at as I don't have a Jayhawk surface scanner, but this is a general guideline for those who want to have some idea about the use of the product.

charlest

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Re: Questions about Motiv Power Gel Scuff
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2016, 09:10:03 AM »
The Bowler's Grit Comparison Chart Version 2 states Motiv Power Gel Scuff is a cleaner and scouring compound 500-1000 grit. 
I don't know what the actual grit ends up at as I don't have a Jayhawk surface scanner, but this is a general guideline for those who want to have some idea about the use of the product.

Based on that, I personally would assume you get close to 1000 grit if you just rubbed it on by hand. I'd also assume that number would go up considerably, into the 2000+ range once you started applying it with a spinner. Using a spinner makes a large difference when applying compounds.
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Re: Questions about Motiv Power Gel Scuff
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2016, 11:39:44 AM »
Yes, using a spinner can change the final grit based on pressure, length of time, spinner speed, etc.  But, most folks who would personally use this product I would guess don't have a spinner, so most are probably interested in the approximate final grit from applying by hand. Whether by hand or spinner you cannot determine a precise & actual final grit without a surface scanner like the one produced by Jayhawk.