Post by: kidlost2000 on March 20, 2009, 10:38:43 AM
Anybody have any Circle bowling towels or shirts out there???
The shoes
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The bottom, already started some.
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Everything removed
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Industrial strength velcro.(used before a time or two on my dexters)
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Sideview. It looks like they overlap, but they don't.
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Trimmed edges.
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Finished product
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Dexter sole and heel, and Circle logo that is also removable.
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finished product
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My favorite combo, the reverse cleat.
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Another pic
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Post by: VIXIV on March 20, 2009, 06:48:11 PM
Built time/cost?
Post by: Kid Jete on March 20, 2009, 06:48:42 PM
Post by: kidlost2000 on March 20, 2009, 06:51:54 PM
20-30 mins. total time while watching the NCAA tournamnet.
Velcro was free. Used my soles and heels collected from my different dexters.
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Post by: kidlost2000 on March 20, 2009, 06:55:33 PM
I got two giant rolls, plus where I bowl they wax the approaches before bowling every night so sometimes you need the extra space to add an additional heel to stop.
Same velcro I used to replace on my SST5's and so far it's out lasted the manufactures.
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Post by: rockerbowler18 on March 20, 2009, 06:58:04 PM
Yep.
Custom bowling shoes.
Nike, Adidas, Vans, whatever makes you feel comfortable.
That's a studly idea.
I'm finna hit it up with:
BOWLING SANDALS!!!
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Post by: J_w73 on March 20, 2009, 07:42:58 PM
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"You shoulda traced out the dexter sole and heal on the shoe so you didn't waste velcro between them. Looks cool though, let us know how the velcro holds up."
I got two giant rolls, plus where I bowl they wax the approaches before bowling every night so sometimes you need the extra space to add an additional heel to stop.
Same velcro I used to replace on my SST5's and so far it's out lasted the manufactures.
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anyone know where to get large sheet rolls of industrial velcro loop and hook?
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Post by: J_w73 on March 20, 2009, 07:46:13 PM
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I smell an idea.
Yep.
Custom bowling shoes.
Nike, Adidas, Vans, whatever makes you feel comfortable.
That's a studly idea.
I'm finna hit it up with:
BOWLING SANDALS!!!
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JAT Junior Amateur Tour
Robb's Pro Shops: Bakersfield, California
Rob Stone Supporters of America!
Not a bad idea.. they did it with Golf.. seen the sandals with golf spikes..
on a side note.. it amazes me that bowling and golf shoes are just getting "athletic" and not even.. Linds are well constructed shoes and were the best of the best in bowling shoes for the longest time.. but it is hardly a shoe for any sort of athletic movement or support..
seems like tradition over rides functionality and technology...
also.. if you do do it.. just make sure the rubber doesn't come off on the approach on the push off shoe..
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Post by: J_w73 on March 20, 2009, 07:48:03 PM
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Post by: kidlost2000 on March 20, 2009, 07:55:12 PM
Which when you google it, it brings up all kinds of their products. So I would imagine it is pretty common to find and maybe available at many hardware stores.
I agree with the other guy this really makes it possible to make anything a bowling shoe if you wanted.
My only worry when I first started is I wouldn't be able to get the bottom of the shoes off safely with out damaging the shoe or needing to take it some where to have it done.
From what I could tell looking at most bowling shoes it would be easy to do. Some that are just a solid piece on the bottom front to back may be more difficult.
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Post by: kidlost2000 on March 20, 2009, 07:57:47 PM
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you did it yourself with a screwdriver and a knife.. now if only Etonic could do it with their heels.
I used a pick tool, a flat blade screw driver and then a box knife for the velcro.
The pick tool for the thread around the sole and the screw driver for the heel. Just worked it a little at a time. They used some strong glue.
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Post by: Monster Pike on March 20, 2009, 08:00:38 PM
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Post by: strikealot on March 20, 2009, 08:01:49 PM
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Post by: kidlost2000 on March 20, 2009, 08:27:24 PM
That is the cleat from around 2002 or 2003 they later went to smaller ridges and it seems to slide way to much for me.
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Post by: kidlost2000 on March 27, 2009, 12:57:05 AM
So now I have two great pairs of Circle interchangeable shoes.
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Post by: rockerbowler18 on March 27, 2009, 01:09:41 AM
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You can buy the velcro anywear, Great Job, I used this idea on a pair of AF1s
Exactly what I was thinking about doing! I used to wear a Nike on my right foot, as I like a LOT of traction on my pushoff foot. Got the sst8s with the "grippiest" pivot foot soles available, and that works, but it'd still be cool to have my old 'bowling shoes' (air force ones) made into novelty shoes.
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Post by: J_w73 on March 27, 2009, 01:14:34 AM
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Tried them out in league and they worked great. I ordered a second pair slightly different and did the same thing.
So now I have two great pairs of Circle interchangeable shoes.
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So why doesn't circle do this? Would it really cost them that much more money
that second pair looks pretty sharp and comfortable..
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Post by: ValentinoBowling on March 27, 2009, 01:21:58 AM
ABS was able to get around it with the border, Linds got around it with the EXXXtra pucks and the Wedge's strip.
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Post by: J_w73 on March 27, 2009, 01:34:27 AM
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dexter's patents
ABS was able to get around it with the border, Linds got around it with the EXXXtra pucks and the Wedge's strip.
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velcro on a sole is really patentable.. I guess so but it seems pretty obvious..and has been around a long time now..
and hasn't it been around long enough that the patent is expired??
what about etonic??
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Post by: ValentinoBowling on March 27, 2009, 01:41:08 AM
As far as Etonic, I don't stay current with their lineup, do they have removable soles/heel?
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Post by: kidlost2000 on March 27, 2009, 03:04:05 AM
I would imagine you could get around the patent with different designs or use of velcro like what Linds and others have done.
I don't care for the fact that Dexters shoe prices have gotten higher and they give you fewer heels and soles. Then you have to pay $15-$20 to get the one you wanted that they no longer include.
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Post by: 10PinGod on March 27, 2009, 05:43:07 AM
Post by: J_w73 on March 27, 2009, 09:45:39 AM
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Design patents are 17 years.
As far as Etonic, I don't stay current with their lineup, do they have removable soles/heel?
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thanks for the 17 year info.. didn't know that..
and yes .. etonic does have removable soles..same as dexter I think.. maybe something is different enough.. not sure..
no heels yet.. for some reason..
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Post by: kidlost2000 on March 27, 2009, 02:10:27 PM
USBC has no rules that I could find in reference to shoes. Which is why so many people where I bowl use regular tennis shoes.( and because they use furniture polish to wax the approaches before we start bowling every week.)
USBC rule 12
The application of any foreign substance on any part of the approach that detracts from the possibility of other players having normal conditions is prohibited. This includes, but is not limited to talcum powder, pumice and resin on shoes, and/or soft rubber soles or heels that rub off on the approach.
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Post by: tjj300 on March 27, 2009, 09:40:56 PM
I like making my own soles.
The velcro used here is courser and thicker, and the felt part makes for a thicker, spongier sole than the original.
If anybody knows how to get the velcro Dexter/3G uses, please post the info here. Or shoot me a message.
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Post by: kidlost2000 on March 28, 2009, 01:40:26 AM
I've only had to use it to replace what is on my cleat/heel. The soles them selves ware out to fast. Not a very good deal for what they charge.
When you google 3M velcro it does bring up a lot of stuff. Have you tried emailing 3M?
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Post by: J_w73 on March 28, 2009, 01:56:36 AM
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The velcro part on the shoes is identical to what is used by Dexter, the other I guess you would say softer part used on the actual heels or soles is thicker.
I've only had to use it to replace what is on my cleat/heel. The soles them selves ware out to fast. Not a very good deal for what they charge.
When you google 3M velcro it does bring up a lot of stuff. Have you tried emailing 3M?
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" hand, don't step on the lanes without some "
As far as I know Velcro is not made by 3m.. they may use some 3m adhesives on their products but the actual product is made by the company Velcro Industries
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Post by: ValentinoBowling on March 28, 2009, 02:11:02 AM
Its called industrial strength velcro
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Post by: ValentinoBowling on March 28, 2009, 02:12:34 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Velcro-brand-Industrial-Strength-Tape/dp/B0001DRZM2/ref=pd_sbs_op_4
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Post by: kidlost2000 on March 28, 2009, 04:26:25 AM
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Post by: J_w73 on March 28, 2009, 10:00:01 AM
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here is a better sized package, this picture also shows the hook side which is exactly like dexters soles.
http://www.amazon.com/Velcro-brand-Industrial-Strength-Tape/dp/B0001DRZM2/ref=pd_sbs_op_4
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the hard part to find is the "loop" side that dexter uses.. The standard velcro loop is longer and more "loopier", if that is a word... and what ever is stuck to it will slide back and forth as the longer loops move...
I made a custom felt sole and some others for my dexters.. The boat carpet I ended up using seemed to work pretty good.. not ideal but it worked..if you just stuck it by hand it wasn't that secure.. but after stepping on it and walking a bit you had to really pull to get it off.
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