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General Category => BallReviews Tournaments => Topic started by: janderson on April 26, 2005, 09:23:43 AM
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This is a proposal for a scratch, singles, summer "sport" tournament/league. This would be for scratch bowlers participating in official or un-official "sport" leagues, nationals-pattern leagues, PBA leagues, or "challenge" leagues. As with all BR tournaments, we would not only rely on each participant's honesty in posting scores, but honesty in that they're are bowling in a league that features some sort of challenging lane conditions. This would not be a tournament for boosting one's ego. If all participants are truly bowling in the type of league posted, we should see some low scores.
Format: 3-games per week (Sunday through Saturday) for 10 weeks starting mid-May or early June. Each bowler would post scores from 1 specific sport/pba/nationals/challenge league. Bowlers earn points as follows: 5 points for each week of participation (non-blind), 1 point for each bowler beaten per game, 1 point for each bowler beaten per 3-game series, 3 bonus points for 1st place any single game, 5 bonus points for 1st place any 3-game series. No points earned for taking a blind and blinds do not count as a bowler "beaten".
My goal is to get bowlers to take on some tougher conditions over the summer and give those BR members who are taking on the challenge of tougher conditions a place to "congregate" and share their stories as well as some friendly competition. If formed, I propose calling the tournament the "HNTHS (Hooray, no typical house shot) Singles"
Questions and feedback are welcome. Let me know what you think. If you'd like to join/see this happen, please post the beginning and ending date of the league you would be using.
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J.J. "Waterola Kid" Anderson, the bLowling King : Kill the back row
Edited on 4/26/2005 5:17 PM
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I'm for it. I have my team for the summer season in my Sport league. Surprise, surprise, they want me to come.
I will probably make everyone feel good about their scores. My average over this past winter was a 159 with a high game of 216 and high series of 743 for 4 games.
On edit: We start June 6th and probably end just before Labor Day. If this starts sooner, we have a few weeks still left of the winter season.
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Edited on 4/26/2005 6:30 PM
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sounds good to me...im in a pba league at howell lanes in NJ. i think we start may 30th.
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I'd like in. My SPORTS SUMMER league starts on May 17 .. sorry don't know anything about the condition other then it will be a SPORTS league! Meeting will be on the 1st night of bowling where I will find the LAST NIGHT of bowling. Please count me IN! Thanks!
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Would you object to making it an over average setup to keep it more competitive?
For users that do not have a sport league average they could use the THS to Sport conversion chart for the first 9 games until they have established an average.
You could still use the bonus points other than they would be based on pins over average instead of pin fall.
I think that there would be more interest if using this format, myself included since my sport average is only 182 and I would not be able to compete with some of the better bowlers on here. I am up 12 from last years aport average though.
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I would love to bowl in this.
I am bowling in a sanctioned sport league on tuesday night starting May 3rd.
Two summers ago when i bowled in it i finished with a 202 average.
Last year i did not bowl in it do to an ankle injury.
The league is called Tuesday Sport Doubles.
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Edited on 4/26/2005 11:34 PM
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This sounds like a good idea - count me in!
I'll be bowling in a PBA pattern league at Hawthorn Lanes in Vernon Hills, IL. We are supposed to bowl on each of the five basic PBA patterns during the course of the league, with the pattern changing every two to three weeks.
We bowl on Wednesdays, starting on May 18 and going into August, probably either Aug. 10 or 17.
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RW (THB)
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Would you object to making it an over average setup to keep it more competitive?
Well, we could run two divisions, one for scratch and one for over average if that would bring more bowlers. Would that suffice?
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J.J. "Waterola Kid" Anderson, the bLowling King : Kill the back row
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J.J. "Waterola Kid" Anderson, the bLowling King : Kill the back row
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I would like to participate. I will be bowling in a PBA pattern league starting May 19th. at Terrace Lanes in Frederick, MD. Oh yeah I'm ready to be humbled.
Edited on 4/28/2005 10:32 PM
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That makes seven (7) of us. If we can get to 10, I think it will work, though we may need to change the bonus points.
Where are all the people that complain about bowling's lack of integrity?
Volksbeetle - I averaged 177 in the PBA league last summer. Oh yeah, "humbled" is a good word to describe it. However, it did prepare me for my first PBA event which was successful 
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J.J. "Waterola Kid" Anderson, the bLowling King : Kill the back row
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J.J. "Waterola Kid" Anderson, the bLowling King : Kill the back row
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8, need two more
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J.J. "Waterola Kid" Anderson, the bLowling King : Kill the back row
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J,
Explain how it would work if not bowling on a sport shot. Thanks
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Tracy
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If you want to win, train your heart
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J,
Explain how it would work if not bowling on a sport shot. Thanks
You'd need to be participating in a non-official sport league (there are leagues out there who can get the house to put down the tough shot, but not pull tape), a PBA-Condition league, an ABC-nationals pattern league, or something similar.
Regardless, you should be involved in some sort of league that is dedicated to putting down tougher lane conditions. Most of the time you can tell because the name of the league or the league advertisement will specifically state the lane condition(s) you'll be using. If it doesn't, the league is likely a normal league participating on the house shot.
While I don't automatically condemn bowlers participating in a normal league, using scores from a house shot against bowlers out there working their butts off to score on some sort of sport, pba, nationals, flat, etc pattern isn't fair. One could also make the argument that pitting bowlers on PBA patterns versus bowlers on completely flat patterns is also not completely fair and I wouldn't argue with you. As stated in the original post, the goal is to bring bowlers together who are out there demanding more of themselves. 
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J.J. "Waterola Kid" Anderson, the bLowling King : Kill the back row
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Thanks. I guess I will have to pass. I am bowling a scratch trio's league this
summer, but it has a average cap of 585, so I doubt they will change the shot.
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Tracy
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If you want to win, train your heart
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J.J. "Waterola Kid" Anderson, the bLowling King : Kill the back row
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My first summer sport league starts up today. It is a 4 game league, so should I take the first 3 or last 3 games?
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stanski
Edited on 5/11/2005 2:41 PM
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My sports league starts next Tuesday .. is this ON or OFF? I'm not expecting any BIG scores from myself .. but it should be FUN!
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
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I was hoping to get at least 10 bowlers, but we could start with what we have. We need everyone to post their start date. I'd like to get going no later than the 22nd.
Bowled my first week last night on regionals pattern #1. I'll reserve judgment until next week on the overall difficulty, but they did transition quickly.
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J.J. "Waterola Kid" Anderson, the bLowling King : Kill the back row
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ahhh...I missed this, my sport shot just started this week, already bowled week 1, can someone catch me up? I'd love to compete in this...
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START DATE: Tuesday May 17, 2005;7:00 PM!
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
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Alright awesome, count me in, I bowl sport on mondays so the next day I guess we will post scores?
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-I will forever love this great game, I love the people and the competition, I only wish the best would get the recognition of an ATHLETE that they deserve.
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please please please can we use this week!!! I was first in the league out of 66 bowlers, 43 foot sport sanctioned pattern, i shot 666 then a 210 followed by a 190 in a stepladder match to win it!
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stanski
Edited on 5/11/2005 9:36 PM
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My PBA pattern league starts next Wednesday, May 18.
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RW (THB)
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The last of us starts on May 30th, so our first week would be the 29th of May through June 4th.
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J.J. "Waterola Kid" Anderson, the bLowling King : Kill the back row
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The last of us starts on May 30th, so our first week would be the 29th of May through June 4th.
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J.J. "Waterola Kid" Anderson, the bLowling King : Kill the back row
Is this the official starting date? Let us know. My league is already underway so I can post scores as soon as this thing gets started.
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-If you're not willing to change, you're not willing to improve.
-Life is like a coin, you can spend it any way you want, but you can only spend it once.
-I will forever love this great game, I love the people and the competition, I only wish the best would get the recognition of an ATHLETE that they deserve.
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WOW! I started last night! Honestly it didn't seem too bad .. last years I had BIGGER problems. Now comes the BIG LAUGH .. I shot 474
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
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If it makes you feel better, I shot 440 one week last summer, Joe.
Had major success Tuesday, went 30 clean on PBA regional/senior pattern #1. What a great feeling.
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J.J. "Waterola Kid" Anderson, the bLowling King : Kill the back row
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The last of us starts on May 30th, so our first week would be the 29th of May through June 4th.
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J.J. "Waterola Kid" Anderson, the bLowling King : Kill the back row
Is this the official starting date? Let us know. My league is already underway so I can post scores as soon as this thing gets started.
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-If you're not willing to change, you're not willing to improve.
-Life is like a coin, you can spend it any way you want, but you can only spend it once.
-I will forever love this great game, I love the people and the competition, I only wish the best would get the recognition of an ATHLETE that they deserve.
Yes, look for posts in the BR Tournaments forum titled "HNTHS week # | post results here" and "HNTHS week # results".
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J.J. "Waterola Kid" Anderson, the bLowling King : Kill the back row
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I will be attending the meeting for the summer sport league Tues night and will know then if they will be holding the league or not. If they do, I am for this.
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Ok, it will be a sport league, starting May 31.
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