Ball Recommendations for 2 Handed Bowler

[Stevev86]

I'm currently bowling in 2 leagues at 2 different houses, I'm averaging 173 at one house and then 153 at the other.. I throw about 14-15 mph and high revs since I bowl 2 hand. I usually aim for the 3rd arrow on the left side and cut out to around the 2nd arrow on the right before it snaps back.. At the house that I average 153, it seems like they use a shorter pattern and my ball will cross the head pin about halfway through the first game.

So now I'm looking for something with a little less back end reaction that I won't have to go gutter to gutter with in order to hit the pocket.

[Nick885]

What are you using now?

[Stevev86]

Wow, how did I leave that out haha.. I'm using a DV8 Marauder Mutiny.

[SVstar34]

If you want to stick with DV8, go with a Dude. much smoother reaction overall.

If you don't want to stay with DV8, go with a Storm Tropical Breeze or Super Natural. You don't have much ball speed so you need something much weaker with a 2 hand release.

[larry mc]

any entry level reactive u can get on sale should do fine

[LuckyLefty]

Hysterical post.

But if it was real, clearly as a two hander you are not utilizing a skip step.  The necessary skip step in two handed bowling is the secret sauce in creating speed to blend up with the revs.

Almost all two handers without are losing over 3 mph at the pins.

Everyone with the skip step bowling two handed will approach 20 mph as a an adult.

Regards,

Luckylefty

[TWOHAND834]

I'm currently bowling in 2 leagues at 2 different houses, I'm averaging 173 at one house and then 153 at the other.. I throw about 14-15 mph and high revs since I bowl 2 hand. I usually aim for the 3rd arrow on the left side and cut out to around the 2nd arrow on the right before it snaps back.. At the house that I average 153, it seems like they use a shorter pattern and my ball will cross the head pin about halfway through the first game.

So now I'm looking for something with a little less back end reaction that I won't have to go gutter to gutter with in order to hit the pocket.

As a fellow two hander, another thing you can do is put the pin between 1 to 2 inches from your axis point to tame down the backend.  I have a 300C Solid with this layout and it allows me to go straighter when a ball like my Violent Eruption gets too "violent" on the backend.  Even with the surface at 4000 plus polish, it still never gets flippy and uncontrollable. 

For your specs, I believe that Mutiny to be too much ball unless you are in heavier oil conditions.  There are a couple routes you can go to get what you are looking for.  The first is what was suggested about doing a Super Natural or even a Scout since the Scout has no core in it (pancake weight block).  The other things is what I recommended; taking a lower end reactive like a 300C and putting the pin out close to your axis point. 

In regards to your Mutiny, have you tried adjusting the surface on it or is it still at the original box finish?

[Stevev86]

It's still at the original finish because I've been happy with how it reacts at the house I'm averaging 170+ at.. It's currently drilled to where the pin is above and to the right of my ring finger.

I think I may go with the Super natural, from some of the videos I've seen I like how it moves and doesn't over react.

[Brandon Riley]

I am not a fan of urethane playing deep and it will act like a crutch for your development as you won't ever have to develop ball speed. 
Most 2 handers will want their speed at least 18mph+ to balance their rev rate and ball roll.  Another thing that is unique about 2 handers is that most track very high due to the strong wrist position making it a struggle to get the ball to push when the lanes get dry.  I like the idea of a 2" pin-axis layout as a good place to start and to keep the pin in line or above the fingers depending on your ball roll.

The Marauder Mutiny is a very flippy ball which is great for certain conditions but you will definitely want to look into something softer down the lane.  If you can still find a slingshot, give that ball a try with a 2" pin-axis - it is very even, but still fairly weak.  The Dude would be a decent choice as well.