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Ratt_bowling

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Do tournament results get reported to USBC?
« on: January 26, 2015, 01:23:52 PM »
If you avg 150 in league and then bowl a tournament and have the series of your life, does the score get submitted to USBC?  I can't tell if they keep track of tournament results.

 

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Re: Do tournament results get reported to USBC?
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2015, 01:45:38 PM »
Read rules 319d and 319e

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Re: Do tournament results get reported to USBC?
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2015, 02:36:53 PM »
I believe that it is the bowler's responsibility to report this info to tournament management if appealed or protested. I do not know if management directly reports this to the USBC.

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Re: Do tournament results get reported to USBC?
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2015, 03:28:02 PM »
Yes, both the scores and the payout are reported to USBC, but I don't know what, if anything, they do with them.  --  JohnP

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Re: Do tournament results get reported to USBC?
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2015, 03:36:10 PM »
Well if I do report I won some money in a tournament the directors would need a way to look it up and see if I reported things correctly.  I'm not saying it's not reported, I just don't see where it is reported. 

I just did my first tournament and was curious as one guys terrifically high score got Alibi 4-times to take the top four spots.  I don't know how any of it works so I'm trying to learn it now.

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Re: Do tournament results get reported to USBC?
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2015, 04:44:56 PM »
If you avg 150 in league and then bowl a tournament and have the series of your life, does the score get submitted to USBC?  I can't tell if they keep track of tournament results.

If you shoot a honor score (like say a 300) in a sanctioned tournament, you can get a USBC award. You just have to make sure they submit it. Chapter 3: Awards: Rule 51e. Reporting Procedures

Read rules 319d and 319e as mentioned above, They basically say it's your responsibility for keeping track of your tournament average and winnings for the last 12 months.


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319d. Reporting Prior Prize Winnings
A handicap or classified tournament may require a bowler to report any previous tournament prize
winnings as a condition for entry.
In a handicap or classified tournament that does not have such a rule, anyone who has qualified* for
a cash and/or merchandise prize of $600 or more in the position standings prize list in any event in
a tournament, including all-events, special features, special prizes and donated prizes, within the last
12-month period, must give tournament management the following information prior to participation
for possible average adjustment:
1. The name of each tournament in which they have been paid such a prize, or if not yet paid, in which
they have qualified for the prize.
2. The amount of the prize.
3. The actual score bowled to qualify for the prize.
4. The prize position.
Failure to comply with these provisions is cause for a forfeiture of entry fees and prize winnings.
NOTE: *Qualified is defined as the date and time the tournament officially ended (completion of the
last squad or round of competition), or payment of prizes, whichever comes first.
All bowlers regardless of average must comply with the provision of Rule 319d.
Prize winnings from certified and noncertified tournaments, including those using a modified
format of American tenpins (example: 9 pin tap), must be used in the application of this rule.

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319e. Average Adjustment for Entry
NOTE: All certified and non-certified scores from the game of American tenpins must be used in the
application of this rule.
Unless the tournament rules state otherwise, the following applies in a handicap or
classified tournament:
1. The bowler is responsible for keeping a record of the names, dates, scores, and prize winnings in
all tournaments entered in the previous 12 months, including those still running. These include all
tournament scores bowled in accordance with the game of American tenpins.
2. A bowler shall adjust his/her entering average if, during the 12-month period immediately
preceding the time and date of bowling, the bowler’s accumulated average for all, but not less than
21 tournament games, exceeds the average to be used for entry by 15 or more pins. In that case, the
accumulated average must be used for handicapping or classification purposes.
a. A bowler whose tournament scores require an adjustment must submit the adjusted average in
writing before the end of the first game in a tournament, unless tournament rules allow for such
adjustment to be made within a specified time after bowling.
b. Failure to use the adjusted average in accordance with the foregoing is cause for forfeiture of
entry fees and prize winnings, and the bowler is subject to suspension of membership in USBC.
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On appeal or protest, the bowler must promptly supply the record of the names, dates, scores and
prizes won — or scores that qualify to win — in all tournaments in which the bowler competed within
the previous 12 months.
Nothing in this rule supersedes tournament management’s authority to adjust the bowler’s average
higher prior to bowling.

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Re: Do tournament results get reported to USBC?
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2015, 05:55:30 PM »
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Yes, both the scores and the payout are reported to USBC, but I don't know what, if anything, they do with them.  --  JohnP

My earlier post needs to be corrected to read "both the scores and the payout of the prize winners . . .".  The tournament director reports this information to the USBC tournament division.  Again, I don't know what is done with the scores after they are reported.  --  JohnP

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Re: Do tournament results get reported to USBC?
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2015, 06:04:23 PM »
We only have to send in the final standings and winnings, along with a report. Individual scores are not submitted unless its singles or all events.  Then as I noted only those who win money.  At one time USBC had looked at having all certified tournaments submit the games and scores, that would have been used to generate a 12 month average. Would have made it easy to verify if your tournament average was 15 pins or more than your league, but it never happened.

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Re: Do tournament results get reported to USBC?
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2015, 04:52:40 PM »
I'm sure Tex is right, the tournament I used to run was a singles tournament, so I had to submit the scores.  --  JohnP