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General Category => Beginners Board => Topic started by: bryan1 on May 15, 2014, 10:13:08 AM

Title: Good beginner ball?
Post by: bryan1 on May 15, 2014, 10:13:08 AM
Hello, I've recently gotten into bowling about 2 months ago. I've been bowling fairly regularly during that time -- about once a week -- after rarely bowling in my life before that. My average is 130, with a high of 171. I'd like to get more serious, not only with lessons but with equipment. I don't want to use the house balls anymore, but as a beginner I also am not going to immediately invest in an entire ball arsenal right away. My question is: Is there are good "catch-all" nice performance ball I can buy to start with, so I can practice with a good ball, before I get into buying balls for specific oil patterns etc? Thanks for your help!
Title: Re: Good beginner ball?
Post by: billdozer on May 15, 2014, 11:16:20 AM
I feel, anything under $100 bucks, and is not polyester is a start.  Pick one that "you" personally like, and your coach will take it from there.
Title: Re: Good beginner ball?
Post by: milorafferty on May 15, 2014, 11:25:36 AM
Get the Ebonite Cyclone. Best value on the market at this time.
Title: Re: Good beginner ball?
Post by: xrayjay on May 15, 2014, 12:13:05 PM
I had the (pre ebo) scout and jazz, both balls were dirty cheap. the JAzz was $45 and scout $55. I shot a non sanctioned 300 (first) with the scout and a sanctioned 300 with the jazz.  And just like these balls, I used a storm breeze pearl for two seasons.

So, don't be fooled by the price or label these balls have. They maybe in the lower level/cat..but, they still knock'em downs....
Title: Re: Good beginner ball?
Post by: byronk on May 15, 2014, 12:15:57 PM
Brunswick Strike King
Title: Re: Good beginner ball?
Post by: spmcgivern on May 15, 2014, 12:57:42 PM
Pretty much every company has a ball in this category.  This may come down to what can you get at a good price.  Look for equipment that is discounted or go with what your ball driller is suggesting.  You could even use aesthetics if a balls colors seem your style.

But in the end, the ball shouldn't cost a lot and should be in the Mid or Low performance categories.
Title: Re: Good beginner ball?
Post by: kllian on May 15, 2014, 01:24:32 PM
i also started with a strike king
Title: Re: Good beginner ball?
Post by: JohnP on May 15, 2014, 08:07:06 PM
I've sold a lot of Cyclones and have never had a complaint on one.  The Strike King would be my second choice.  --  JohnP
Title: Re: Good beginner ball?
Post by: loop_zero on May 16, 2014, 11:30:20 AM
Sold lots of Cyclones, it's a great ball and just seems to have the upper hand in the low end balls. Second choice would be the strike king. Lastly the storm tropical breeze.
Title: Re: Good beginner ball?
Post by: loop_zero on May 16, 2014, 11:33:04 AM
Spend more time, and money if you have to on coaching!
Title: Re: Good beginner ball?
Post by: Snakster on May 16, 2014, 11:54:38 AM
Am I the only one who doesn't equate 'beginner' to 'low performance'? I'd say go to BowlerX or buddies website and peruse the closeouts. There are some very good balls at very good prices. The marauder might be a good one to go for or the meanstreak. Even at regular price a Wrecker or Uproar.

Torrid Affair. Torrid elite is even marked down some places. Original yeti can be had for $80. To necessarily lock into a ball that is deemed beginner only to discover two months from now that it's not enough ball for you. Look for the good deals and set yourself up with some good equipment, it can only help.

My two cents. (The above is exactly what happened with my son. Essentially wasted money)
Title: Re: Good beginner ball?
Post by: spmcgivern on May 16, 2014, 01:42:46 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't equate 'beginner' to 'low performance'? I'd say go to BowlerX or buddies website and peruse the closeouts. There are some very good balls at very good prices. The marauder might be a good one to go for or the meanstreak. Even at regular price a Wrecker or Uproar.

Torrid Affair. Torrid elite is even marked down some places. Original yeti can be had for $80. To necessarily lock into a ball that is deemed beginner only to discover two months from now that it's not enough ball for you. Look for the good deals and set yourself up with some good equipment, it can only help.

My two cents. (The above is exactly what happened with my son. Essentially wasted money)

The main reason for the mid to low performance category is because of the jump in performance he would see going to anything else.  The OP is using a house ball.  Imagine having a Storm Sync drilled and then not being able to control it.  Beginner bowlers are recommended lower performance equipment because they are easier to handle.  Nothing too aggressive and definitely more predictable.

But I do agree with the closeout items.  No reason to get the latest and greatest at this point.
Title: Re: Good beginner ball?
Post by: Snakster on May 16, 2014, 02:15:06 PM
Note that I did not recommend a sync or other super ball. Good mid performance balls suitable for medium house conditions. Not too much ball for a beginner, but ample room to grow. Amazing value out there. No need to aim low. My son went from ground zero and quickly outgrew the scout reactive I initially bought him.

Granted, one could debate whether he truly outgrew it, but within a month and a half he was banging an Arson. By the summer he had an arsenal building as he was preparing for junior tournament schedule in the fall. My only point is, if you are serious about getting into it, do yourself a favor and go straight to mid.
Title: Re: Good beginner ball?
Post by: byronk on May 16, 2014, 02:39:13 PM
I get what your saying about mid level balls but A Stike King is not a beginnger ball. Its a ball that would be good for a beginner because of its versatillity and price but its also a ball he can keep and use long term.
Title: Re: Good beginner ball?
Post by: milorafferty on May 16, 2014, 02:48:50 PM
I get what your saying about mid level balls but A Stike King is not a beginnger ball. Its a ball that would be good for a beginner because of its versatillity and price but its also a ball he can keep and use long term.

Agreed. Same with the Cyclone. Both are good balls that are great value for their cost. A new bowler could learn with either of them and as their skill level progressed they could build their arsenal around it.
Title: Re: Good beginner ball?
Post by: Snakster on May 16, 2014, 05:01:05 PM
I'll concede the point on strike king and cyclone. Could use a strike king myself, truth be told.
 8)


Edit: that new Blur line from C300 looks promising too. Really like the look of the hybrid aesthetically.
Title: Re: Good beginner ball?
Post by: STORMHOOKER26 on May 16, 2014, 07:59:08 PM
While it would be a mistake to associate a "beginner" ball with low performance, its also a mistake to assume that "higher end" balls are harder to control.  Something like a Storm IQ Tour Pearl is very predictable and controllable.  If you don't mind spending a little more, its a great ball that covers a wide variety of lane conditions.  That being said, as other have noted, there is a ton of great equipment for reasonable prices.  Decide whether you want a pearl or polished ball which usually hooks late and has more backend hook or a solid ball(dull surface) which usually grips the lanes earlier thus providing a more even arching hook.  After you decide that, I would advise you not to overthink it.  Most balls on the market are really really good, especially if your used to throwing a house ball.  Pick one in your favorite color or find one with a cool name or pick a brand to be loyal to.  Have fun with it. 
Title: Re: Good beginner ball?
Post by: Ratt_bowling on May 16, 2014, 10:02:38 PM
I bought my first ball in January and I too was overwhelmed with choices of ball.  I went to a Demo day and got a little bit of coaching, at least enough to get some advice on buying a dull ball.  It may be that the coach recognized what sort of hook I thought I wanted.  Anyhow, I went in to the pro-shop and he showed me all the dull balls in the shop.  I believe there were 8 different ones to choose from and the pro-shop guy admitted there was no real way to tell me which one to pick.  So I just chose the best looking dull ball they had, Hammer Amp.  It turns out the Hammer Amp is an advanced performance ball, but I can't say the ball has been 'too much' for me.  I'm doing fine with it but it took me about three months of practicing on my own without coaching before I found a release I could do consistently.  I'm probably still all wrong and now I've got some birthday money to go get some lessons. 

My advice then is...don't be too afraid to buy anything.  It worked out fine for me.  Try to get some coaching, they may end up helping you pick your 2nd ball.  I would ask about what oil conditions a ball are intended for and make sure it matches the conditions you will be on.  Some balls are for heavy oil conditions and won't work as intended on a dry bowling lane.  The pro-shop guy should know this.  I saw this first hand tonight when my father-in-law and I went to a new place and he started hooking his spare ball because it was too dry for his other ball. 
Title: Re: Good beginner ball?
Post by: JohnP on May 17, 2014, 11:40:37 AM
Beginners should start with a symmetric ball, their release usually isn't consistent enough for asymmetrics.  Yes, there are some great buys on the internet, but I'd rather see a beginner use their local pro shop to get a relationship established.  6 - 8 years ago the Cyclone would have been a high midline ball, it has the coverstock used in The One and a strong symmetric core.  He should be able to get one, drilled, at his local pro shop for around $125.  --  JohnP
Title: Re: Good beginner ball?
Post by: STORMHOOKER26 on May 17, 2014, 02:08:17 PM
Agreed, symmetrical balls are considered the most user friendly.  I didnt mention it because almost every entry and mid level ball will be symmetrical and alot of the high performance balls are as well.  Generally the asymmetrical balls will be the most expensive balls in a company's line up.  For your first time, you really should just go to a good proshop and have the driller help you pick out a ball and get you fitted properly.  They will usually work with you on price if your buying the ball and drilling it there.
Title: Re: Good beginner ball?
Post by: EL3MCNEIL on June 02, 2014, 06:38:28 AM
Is it better to start of with a first ball being lighter? My wife is just starting and we got her a 12lbs ball. Was thinking of moving her up to 14lbs after a while. Does that seem like a good idea or should we stick to what she originally has started throwing?
Title: Re: Good beginner ball?
Post by: jasonbaer33 on June 02, 2014, 08:11:46 AM
Look into the Global 900 Hook line. They have solid, pearl, and hybrid within the line and won't brake the back. Good balls and will cover most house shot conditions.
Title: Re: Good beginner ball?
Post by: Impending Doom on June 02, 2014, 08:39:01 AM
Look into the Global 900 Hook line. They have solid, pearl, and hybrid within the line and won't break the back. Good balls and will cover most house shoot conditions.

+1. Hook line is awesome.

Also, remember the surface can be changed easily. A hybrid Hook with some surface changes would be perfect.
Title: Re: Good beginner ball?
Post by: amyers2002 on June 02, 2014, 08:52:45 AM
The weight of ball you throw depends on the individual if she can maintain a good speed with the heavier ball I would go heavier if not stick with the 12 lbs. I like the storm tropical breeze and have a friend who just got the new Motiv Ascent Apex and loves it.