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Armourboy

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How to determine lane patterns
« on: June 02, 2013, 02:31:06 PM »
So I'm not really new to bowling, but its something I've always wondered and just never really asked about. Is it as simple as asking your local bowling center, your pro shop guy, or is there some fancy trick to figuring it out?

I've always seen people talk about throwing on a " X foot THS " or WTBA Montreal, etc.

For instance, I know my local center uses a harder layout than the lanes on the other side of town, mainly from experience, but also because of what my Pro Shop owner told me. I know its a Med/Heavy laydown, however I've never known just exactly what it is.

Is it as simple as just asking?

 

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Re: How to determine lane patterns
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2013, 04:51:16 PM »
While I prefer heavier oil, I'm not sure knowing how much oil is being applied is as good or appropriate as knowing how the oil is being applied
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the best/safest way or playing the resulting oil pattern.

As a set of examples, for the concept of medium-heavy oil, it can be applied as
- a short length, say 36' - 38', where you have a long amount of very dry in the backend.
- a medium length of 38' - 40' but with heavy oil inside and bone dry outside.
- a long length, say 42' - 45' with a sport pattern of 2:1, which will transition very nastily.

If you're tweener you may want to use 3 different set of balls on the above patterns, so the knowing it's "medium-heavy" may do you no good at all, unless, of course, you are extremely skilled in both hand release changes and ball speed changes. But then you'd already be in the PBA and not asking this question here. :)
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Re: How to determine lane patterns
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2013, 05:46:43 PM »
Having an answer as to what it's supposed to be as opposed to what it is are 2 different things. I've learned that you just throw the ball and adjust. I start out at 10 if I don't know, and adjust my angles right to find friction, or left to find hold (on a house shot) Sport is a little more thinking intensive. For example, I bowled on a 48 foot pattern a couple of weeks ago. After a few test shots, knew I had to play between 4th and 5th arrow. You won't see that on a ths. Have a benchmark ball, throw it, adjust. Your game is different than everyone else's.

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Re: How to determine lane patterns
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2013, 10:09:55 PM »
Most league shots have dryer outside of about 10 on each side of the lane pattern.

They then often have a crown with the heaviest oil right near 20.

However on tougher sport patterns it is always good to start out throwing cross alley in both directions and watching closely.  Often one can see where the wet and the dry are.

In addition one eventually goes to the strike ball and and picks the one or two they think they will se that day.

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Armourboy

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Re: How to determine lane patterns
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2013, 02:48:36 AM »
Appreciate the input. Thats pretty much what I've done over the years, I just always wondered how people knew that their alley of choice was starting with a certain pattern. Did they  ask or did they just figure it out.

TBH with where I'm bowling atm Its not a huge deal to even know. They aren't running any leagues so it gets used far more by casual bowlers which can make for some interesting conditions.

I know I was getting discouraged capping out at about 175-185 most of the time with the occasional 210+. My Pro Shop guy actually seemed impressed and told me if I went to the " new alley" in town or had a fresh shot I would be seeing 200's easy.

I had to make some interesting adjustments due to the heat and conditions lastnight. Line would start breaking down after about 7-8 frames so at one point I strung 4-5 in a row by throwing down the first arrow with everything broken down like a spare shot. Not my normal shot at all but it worked til it started drying up too.
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Re: How to determine lane patterns
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2013, 03:30:53 PM »
I'll agree with everybody else.  Sometimes having the numbers don't really help, sometimes they can actually confuse you, but all I get from them is a general idea where to start and with what ball.  The lane surface, age of that lane surface, and the lane machine can all affect it.  For example, certain shots put down with our machine at our local center feel different than that same shot may feel at a different house, and those variables are impossible to create any kind of consistent model with.  What it boils down to is throwing some shots and learning what those shots are telling you.  You may also attack them differently if you're on the same pair for a 3 game set vs moving a pair every game in modified leagues or tournaments.  If you're on them for several games, playing for transition will be important, if you're moving every game, you should line up in the best spot possible. 

Determining the pattern isn't as important as a lot of people say it is.  You'll hear it a lot in the college community, but more often than not, people ask it as a way to sound like they're asking an educated question to impress someone.  Hearing something is 40 feet long with a 1.5-1 ratio really just tells you it's a flatter pattern that's going to be fairly tough, but even seeing a graph breaking down exactly where the oil is at may not tell you much.  You might start out where you think you should, but find out you have more recovery to the right than you thought, or less hold in the middle, or that you have more push through the heads, etc. 

Some lane guys don't even know what they put down, they just push a button on the machine for a pattern that's been in there for years.  Naming the patterns like Montreal is basically just a way to communicate the difficulty of what they were bowling on.  If you have experience on Montreal, it provides you with information or insight into what they're talking about without them having to describe it to you. 

As far as figuring out what you're bowling on without being told, it's really hard to lock down specifics due to the variables.  A pattern with a heavy volume of oil in the heads can feel like a house shot sometimes due to the amount of oil in the middle, even though it's going to be heavy on the outside also.  A longer pattern with lighter volume can feel shorter than a short pattern with a heavy volume, if you get what I'm saying.  And as far as communicating that to other people, you will be able to more accurately describe what you're talking about by where you had to play, how you were throwing the ball, and what ball you were throwing rather than trying to estimate specifics. 
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Armourboy

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Re: How to determine lane patterns
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2013, 10:44:26 PM »
Yeah I always figured how it actually is compared to how it was supposed to be was a far more important factor. Just had always kind of wondered how people knew what they were bowling on or where to find out, or rather what they were supposed to be bowling on  ;D

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Re: How to determine lane patterns
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2013, 12:02:59 PM »
Yeah I always figured how it actually is compared to how it was supposed to be was a far more important factor. Just had always kind of wondered how people knew what they were bowling on or where to find out, or rather what they were supposed to be bowling on  ;D

Yeah sometimes I'll bowl on something and then have someone tell me what it is and show me the graph, and my "mental graph" I made based on shots I threw could be completely off.  So yeah, I prefer just throwing some shots and figuring it out myself. 
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