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jawhiteh

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Newbie needing advice!
« on: February 12, 2013, 09:50:52 AM »
Hello all,

I'm new to the forums, and had some questions regarding technique/practice drills.  I've only bowled recreationally up until a few months ago, when I joined a league and started getting serious about my bowling.  Currently averaging right at 114, though those scores range as low as 100 up to 175.  Clearly, consistency isn't quite there, as I always change alignment/targeting when I get discouraged. 

My question is this:  Should I focus on my current straight-bowling technique and hope to improve, or switch now to a hook?  I've searched for lessons online in my area, but can't find any coaches.  I'm going to check a local proshop this weekend to see if they offer lessons.  I would LOVE to start hooking the ball, but I also put too much emphasis on the end result (the score) at league. 

My current form is a right-handed four-step approach w/ a conventional grip 12-lb ball (AMF w/ a bear on it and is purple/blue in color.  Tried finding name/type, but can only find it referenced online as "coca cola bear ball" -->http://coloradosprings.ebayclassifieds.com/sporting-goods/colorado-springs/new-amf-coca-cola-promotional-giveaway-bowling-ball-rare-12-lbs/?ad=25502138)  I am lining up far right utilizing the 2nd right target arrow to "attempt" to deliver into the pocket. 

Sorry for just dumping all this info on here; I guess I'm to the point where I'm lost.  Any info, tips, etc. would be greatly appreciated.  Again, I'm wondering if switching now to a hook throw would be best before I develop bad habits (if I haven't already!)

Thanks for your help!
-- JP

 

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Re: Newbie needing advice!
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2013, 10:08:47 AM »
My advice would be to find a reputable pro shop in your area (hopefully with a certified coach) and have them give you some lessons.  They should likely have some used equipment laying around that you could purchase for cheap until you get more comfortable in your game

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Re: Newbie needing advice!
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2013, 12:57:28 PM »
I agree with the above poster.
General guidelines: Unless you are under the age of 14, then you should be throwing a 14-15 pound boling ball.  A good fitting ball that is drilled fingertip is the best place to start.  Start with middle of the road hooking ball (ask your proshop owner) and go from there.  Releasing the ball correctly will start you on the hooking path and the stroner your wrist gets the easier it will be.  If possible, get some good coaching, so you won't have to unlearn bad habits in the future.  Good luck.
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Re: Newbie needing advice!
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2013, 09:30:18 PM »
I agree with the above poster.
General guidelines: Unless you are under the age of 14, then you should be throwing a 14-15 pound boling ball.  A good fitting ball that is drilled fingertip is the best place to start.  Start with middle of the road hooking ball (ask your proshop owner) and go from there.  Releasing the ball correctly will start you on the hooking path and the stroner your wrist gets the easier it will be.  If possible, get some good coaching, so you won't have to unlearn bad habits in the future.  Good luck.

dmonroe, I have to disagree with your assessment on ball weight.  We do not know if the bowler is a 250 pound man or a 95 pound woman.  The general guideline on ball weight is 10% of body weight up to the maximum of 16 pounds. 

Otherwise, everything else said in this thread is very good advice.  As said before, good luck!!!

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Re: Newbie needing advice!
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2013, 10:52:30 PM »
Ball weight is up to the individual person. I have a friend who is about the same size as me and he uses 16# while I use 15#. His ball speed is faster then mine, he would literally throw a 15# ball right through the break point. So this person needs to find out what they could handle. Contact your local pro shop. See if they have any used equipment, and what the total price will be to get into one. Then see if they will/can provide lessons, or if they know who can. Glad to see a new bowler sounding positive! Good luck on it.

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Re: Newbie needing advice!
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2013, 09:32:05 AM »
I don't know if I necessarily agree with the assessments on ball weight here.  The 10% of body weight thing is actually bugging me the most.  There's no way I'd set a new bowler who weighs 160 pounds up with a 16 pound ball.  There's also no way I'd set a 15 year old who weighs 100 pounds up with a 10 pound ball.  95% of the pros on tour use 15's, and these are guys who have developed the muscles and exercise them daily, guys like Wes Malott who weighs 275+.  My daughter is 17, she weighs 100-105, and she uses a 15 quite comfortably.  Got 12 year old kids bowling youth leagues who weigh 80 pounds using 14's and zinging them down there, and I also have 60 year old guys who weigh over 225 throwing 14's.  It's about what the bowler can handle, body weight has absolutely nothing to do with it. 

However, judging by the tone of the post, and more the vocabulary, I would guess this person is at the very least in high school, and is most likely male, so I feel comfortable saying 12 pounds is way too light.  May not make the jump all the way to 15, but I would suggest at least going to 14, pending the relevant information requested (age, gender).  Also, do a little research before you pick a pro shop to visit, PLEASE don't listen to friends or buddies, if you have a 150 average buddy that says a certain pro shop is great and knows exactly what they're doing, I'd consider that information suspect.  A correct fit is super important, and I wouldn't consider myself a fit expert, but I've actually written a pro shop seminar with a heavy emphasis on fit, and I've had a lot of success stories.  I can pm you with some information if you would like, but if you can find a good pro shop, they should be able to get you going just fine. 
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Re: Newbie needing advice!
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2013, 07:25:48 PM »
There are multiple way to judge the weight of ball to use 10% of you body weight or you can add 2 lbs to the house ball weight you like the most because a fitted ball feels 2 lbs lighter but the most important thing is that it is comfortable to you.  either way you probably need to step up to a heavier ball. for the rest speak with the people at your local proshop and voice your concerns and questions and they will be able to give you more in depth in person help
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