Too much hook???

[NapoleonD]

I'm new to throwing a hook and just picked up a Scout this weekend. I got it drilled fingertip and started throwing a hook (or trying to)...

Well I can't get any hook with my thumb is so I went to 2 fingers. Now I think the lane might be a little too dry but I am hooking way too much and missing the pocket by a mile!!! HELP!!! What should I do? Any tips? Can you help improve my release by putting the thumb back in? I didn't get inserts on anything since I have basically no clue about this stuff. Help me out!
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[NapoleonD]

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[Oskuposer]

My scout i love for dry lanes ur problem is that u probably throw it to slow that is y it hooks so much try to increase ur speed
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[dizzyfugu]

Maybe it is not the ball but you...? Could it be that you try to put (unconsciously) hook into the ball and steer it towards Brooklyn upon release?
This would be the case if your ball goes rather straight to the pocket after your release, and normally you drop your shoulder and are not square to your target upon release when this happens. Not good. Calm down, try to play with the lane.

If you play the ball to the gutter and THEN it turns and even runs into Brooklyn, then you can only try to move with your feet to higher boards and maybe change your target on the lane, try to speed up the ball (risky, might tip off your timing and anything else) or kill the hook upon release (end over end roll, no side turn).

Hope this helps?
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[NapoleonD]

I think a lot of the problem with putting the thumb back in is wrist related. I can't seem to get any revs when I have the thumb in and I think it's because I am dropping my wirst on the release slapping the ball down. Should I just suck it up and get a lesson or a coach?
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[JohnP]

quote:Should I just suck it up and get a lesson or a coach?
 

YES!!!!  --  JohnP

[dpunky]

NapoleonD,

First off, the Scout is not a big hook ball.  It's best on medium-light to light oil conditions.  I would not even bring it out on heavy oil.

Second, how is the layout of the ball?  Is the span between your finger tip and thumb so wide that you are not able to rotate the ball with your fingertips?  You definitely want to go to a good pro shop and have the staff look at your grip and tell them about your problem.  They can analyze it and suggest the following adjustments.  I can tell you that went to more relaxed fingertip grip and it helped me increase my revolutions on the ball so that I can generate the necessary hook.  With the right grip, you won't drop the ball and lose rotation.

[Jesus Quintana]

quote:Also, try to throw the ball down the ally a bit straighter instead of swinging it right to left.  This is called tightening your line.  You can do this by keeping your target the same, and moving your feet right a few boards (if you are right handed, the opposite if you are a lefty). Try these and come back and tell us how you are doing.  

Hi there...  First post on this board.  Lookin' forward to talking bowling with the lot of you.

Anyway, I also have just begun experimenting with a hook ball and have also recently picked up a Scout Reactive as my first ball.  I probably throw with about average speed (somewhere between 15 and 16 mph), but I don't have a lot of hooking power.  I've only played six games with the ball but have experimented with a lot of different lines, and the one that the person I quoted describes is working very nicely for me.  More specifically, I'm starting it around the 9th or 10th board from the right, it doesn't drift more than a board or two and then on the back end it absolutely kills the pocket (at least compared to the straight ball that I used to throw).  If your swing is anything like mine, I'd recommend this line with the Scout/R also.