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Matt Fortney

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A Few New Vids...comment/citisize...lmk what you think
« on: March 22, 2007, 07:09:53 AM »
first of all, sorry about the so-so quality on these things...trying to shoot a few with a better cam.

Red Zone (pic in profile)
http://media.putfile.com/OUCH-25-49

Zone Classic angle 1
http://media.putfile.com/ZC2

Zone Classic angle 2
http://media.putfile.com/Zone-Classic-2

there they are...let me have your worst! Also, the Zone Classic that I'm throwing is not the one pictured in my profile. The one i'm throwing is pin above middle finger, mb 1" right of thumb. comes out to about 5 1/2 x 4 1/2 (pin x mb).

 

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Re: A Few New Vids...comment/citisize...lmk what you think
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2007, 09:08:04 PM »
nobody? free reign to tear me apart! please! any advice warmly welcomed.

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Re: A Few New Vids...comment/citisize...lmk what you think
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2007, 09:25:00 PM »
wow i think u throw the ball really good. One thing i noticed is u really dont have a push away but ur style seems to work for u nice video
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Re: A Few New Vids...comment/citisize...lmk what you think
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2007, 08:39:34 AM »
i dont have advise or suggestions since u look very good on the approach, the push away is not an issue

i have an observation, ur steps are huge! i dont stand that further back and i have 5 steps. Are u accurate at all with the big steps? can u consistently finish in the same place? if so then thats perfect, if not, u might want to try shorter steps
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Re: A Few New Vids...comment/citisize...lmk what you think
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2007, 08:55:32 AM »
For some reason, I couldn't get your bowling vids to play. It says the playlist format isn't recognized.

I did, however, get a frame called "mpg 36" to play. Did anyone else see that one listed? I like where that one was headed!
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Re: A Few New Vids...comment/citisize...lmk what you think
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2007, 09:30:36 AM »
I look at your video and you have good form.I see that you have some slide not a whole lot but your trail leg kind of fly around if you keep that in place.But if that work for you than like the expression say if it ain't broke than don't fix it.I see that you like to play inside.Have you tried other area to play like down and in.by the gutter or deep inside?
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Re: A Few New Vids...comment/citisize...lmk what you think
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2007, 02:15:34 PM »
Thanks to all for the compliments...greatly appreciated. I also, however appreciate the critisizm. the two main things to work that i hear are my steps (make them shorter) and my right leg (keep it more still). the reason i have longer steps i think can be traced back to my 5 step days...started that way when i was REALLY young. haven't been able to make myself comfortable with shorter steps...but i'm going to be working on it, as i think it will make me more accurate. the leg...i've been working on that for years...but i have to consciously think about it so much...i always slip back into my wild kick.

as far as where on the lane i'm playing...in the videos, i'm playing on a...almost burnt out shot. Usually i'll play a few boards straighter. When the shot allows me to play say...up 2nd arrow, i'm in heaven! i have a different zone classic than the one in the vids that i can usually play right up ten...never scored better with any other ball, this season alone i've got a 300, 299, and 298 with that ball playing down and in...go to ball.

Matt

thanks guys and keep them coming!

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Re: A Few New Vids...comment/citisize...lmk what you think
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2007, 09:15:50 PM »
You have the same approach as me....  4 steps from the back of the approach.  A few standard bowling tips apply differently to those of us who use this approach.  

With a 4 step approach, the 'push away' isn't as important as it is for a 5 step player.  With 4 steps, you will start the ball at the same time you start your first step... so the timing of the push away is not a big deal.  The only thing you might change, is you could start the ball a bit higher if you feel like your timing is off, but it looks good to me.

There isn't a lot you can do about the big leg kick.  Look at the video, and watch your power step.  When you push into the slide with such a long power step, your leg is going to kick.  The best thing you can work on is keeping that back toe on the floor throughout the leg kick.  That way you have a feel for what your foot is doing.  And in the long run, you will develop a feel for when you do something wrong in the approach.

And one other tip, keep your feet slow.  With the long approach, alot of people tend to rush the approach.  You will generate enough power in the last 2 steps, that there is no need to rush the first two steps.
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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2007, 09:34:02 PM »
I also do a 4 step approach from the back set of dots.  How accurate are you at shooting spares?  I was having difficulty with the ten pin and being accurate, so for my spares I started to stand on the front set of dots.  You have a very good approach in my opinion, very smooth looking, not jerky at all.
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Re: A Few New Vids...comment/citisize...lmk what you think
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2007, 10:02:43 PM »
i appreciate it guys, and as far as the spares go, i've always been very proud of how good my spare game has become. please dont think i'm bragging, b/c that's not what i'm intending to do, but i very rarely miss spares...provided i don't leave many huge splits...lol. convertable spares i will very rarely miss.

i've had a system in place since i was about 10. my coach let me watch an old old video of his and the system has worked wonders since i saw it. i've got a diagram in the misc. and beginning board section if you'd like to see it, i'm sure a lot of you are familiar with it though.

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Re: A Few New Vids...comment/citisize...lmk what you think
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2007, 02:45:17 PM »
a little update...tried standing closer on the lane and making my first couple steps a little smaller...wow!!! i couldn't believe how much more accurate i was...unfortunately, i didn't bowl very well, broke down weird and although i was hitting the board...(yeah, you would've never heard me say that before, the 1 single board) i was aiming at....problem is, i was usually aiming at the wrong one! lol. anyway, appreciate the advice. i'm going to keep working on the approach, and going to try taming down the leg soon. thanks again,

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Re: A Few New Vids...comment/citisize...lmk what you think
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2007, 06:13:47 PM »
thank you? lol.

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Re: A Few New Vids...comment/citisize...lmk what you think
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2007, 11:40:21 PM »
Death Blooms,

Haugen finishwork+ Mika's approach and trail leg. M nice game though.

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Re: A Few New Vids...comment/citisize...lmk what you think
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2007, 11:46:51 PM »
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Re: A Few New Vids...comment/citisize...lmk what you think
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2007, 04:31:11 AM »
haha! i knew someone would get me for the white socks! all the black ones i have are so thin they feel uncomfortable w/ my bowling shoes on! lol.

drrev: thank you very much. i took a look and i see what you mean. advice greatly appreciated!

I'm going to post a couple new vids showing the couple things i've been working on. thank you guys very much!

In the new vids maybe i'll throw on some black socks! lol.

Matt