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P0wa

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Been awhile
« on: October 10, 2007, 02:03:25 AM »
Here you go guys, this is my latest vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcyUqRW9xTE

I followed a clinic of Ron Hatfield and he helped me reducing my loft and by my surprise it worked out realy good and realy fast.  Only few games and it feels so good :-) i now got a more consistant roll and ball reaction.  Last weekend i tried it in competition and it's amazing how good my game became in such short periode.

THANKS RON !!!!!
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jbruno6

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Re: Been awhile
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2007, 08:57:29 PM »
Steve,
   So what was the tip??????  We're hanging over here....lol
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P0wa

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Re: Been awhile
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2007, 08:35:29 AM »
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Steve,
   So what was the tip??????  We're hanging over here....lol
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A half ten is not a great shot.  No, you shouldn't have carried it.

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I started to bowl at a age of 9-10 y/o with a bowlingball that didn't fitt my hand.  It was my moms bowlingbal.  The span was way to big so i allways had to grab it during my swing and that's why i have such a big loft.  I've trainend on it b4 but never did i had the result like now, Ron just told me don't be affraid to lose it during your high backswing cause you won't he said, you can grab it but not like you've been doing just try it and you'll c he said: you won't have a high loft and you'll preduce a smooth and consistant release if you work on that. Also b4 your pushaway move your fingers a little and then relax your hand, your hand will be more relaxe in the swing that also helps.
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Re: Been awhile
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2007, 10:21:25 AM »
nice vid and so true!

A nice smooth release without grab is just the product of a good fitting ball and the confidence it won't come off your hand..

I had similar problems with grabbing and too long span.
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jbruno6

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Re: Been awhile
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2007, 11:09:07 AM »
I also struggle with the grabbing.  I do feel like I'm going to lose it.  I wish I had a higher backswing, but my mind won't allow it.  It's a mental thing, I just feel more comfortable going back halfway with grab.
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P0wa

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Re: Been awhile
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2007, 08:05:12 AM »
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I also struggle with the grabbing.  I do feel like I'm going to lose it.  I wish I had a higher backswing, but my mind won't allow it.  It's a mental thing, I just feel more comfortable going back halfway with grab.
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A half ten is not a great shot.  No, you shouldn't have carried it.

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just try it and don't be afraid to drop the ball, cause you won't :-)

My backswing is realy high and i'm not even dropping the ball withouth grabbing it like b4.
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Dan Belcher

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Re: Been awhile
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2007, 08:31:07 AM »
Looks pretty comfortable and clean, P0wa!

jbruno6, all it takes to get the ball off your hand cleanly without grabbing it is the knowledge you can do it!  Just try it once--don't worry about if it comes flying off your hand or anything, just let your hand be relaxed and free in the ball.  Once you do it and prove to yourself you can do it, it becomes much easier to repeat shots that way.   If your thumbhole is a touch too loose, try putting a Hada patch on your thumb for a more snug, comfortable fit.  The biggest key to a clean release is a relaxed hand in a good fitting ball.  I finally figured out exactly what I needed to get this feel over the summer, and my game has improved a ton since then.

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Re: Been awhile
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2007, 03:50:30 AM »
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Looks pretty comfortable and clean, P0wa!

jbruno6, all it takes to get the ball off your hand cleanly without grabbing it is the knowledge you can do it!  Just try it once--don't worry about if it comes flying off your hand or anything, just let your hand be relaxed and free in the ball.  Once you do it and prove to yourself you can do it, it becomes much easier to repeat shots that way.   If your thumbhole is a touch too loose, try putting a Hada patch on your thumb for a more snug, comfortable fit.  The biggest key to a clean release is a relaxed hand in a good fitting ball.  I finally figured out exactly what I needed to get this feel over the summer, and my game has improved a ton since then.


jbruno just try it !!! :-) you won't regred it.  When it works your game will improve so much.


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Re: Been awhile
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2007, 06:15:22 AM »
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I also struggle with the grabbing. I do feel like I'm going to lose it. I wish I had a higher backswing, but my mind won't allow it. It's a mental thing, I just feel more comfortable going back halfway with grab.


Your mind will not allow it because your ball doesn't fit your hand properly. There is more to a properly fit ball than hole size. Just because your thumb is tight in the hole doesn't mean the ball will stay on your hand.

Most proshops drill balls with stretched spans and tons of reverse pitch so the bowler will get out of the ball when he/she squeezes the life out of it. Get a coach that knows what he/she is doing i.e. watch you bowl and check your grip before offering some canned advice about your swing and how you are dropping your shoulder.

You can't out coach a bad fit and you can't improve with bad coaching. With that in mind know that you will not get that high back swing with a ball that will fly off your hand and kill someone if you don't sqeeze it. You will need to change your grip and work with a good coach to learn to relax your swing.

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Re: Been awhile
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2007, 12:39:45 AM »
My advice would be to work on staying down at the foul line. You have a good knee bend but you push up at the last second which causes you to hit up on the ball and loft it. Also work on keeping you trail leg on the ground and hold your position until to ball rolls off the pin deck.

P0wa

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Re: Been awhile
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2007, 12:17:55 PM »
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My advice would be to work on staying down at the foul line. You have a good knee bend but you push up at the last second which causes you to hit up on the ball and loft it. Also work on keeping you trail leg on the ground and hold your position until to ball rolls off the pin deck.


I've been training on that aswel in the last year but i didn't get that result like i have with this training.  Don't forget i only trainend on it few days and the vid is the result of it, amazing result imo.  I just need to perfect it.

Thanks for your comments guys.
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