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boondoggle

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Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes)
« on: August 23, 2007, 08:29:35 AM »
First game 300 to 279.  

Part 1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-lodT9V_14

Part 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOU5z2MENag

If you squint you can see speed and RPM numbers

Looks like Moor is low 300s.  Belmonte is high 500s.

Also at the end of the match they show an overhead diagram of the line each bowler was taking and an overlay of the variance in their shot.
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BuzzsawBrent

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Re: Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes)
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2007, 10:53:53 PM »
Holy crap! That is alot of strikes. I wonder if Belmonte is going to ever bowl in the PBA?
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shelley

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Re: Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes)
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2007, 10:55:55 PM »
Not just 23 out of 24 strikes between the two in the first match (the Learn/Petraglia match from '96 was the same way and just as thrilling), Belmonte threw 23 out of 24 strikes in the two-game match.  The second game he had the front 7 (?), left a 4-9 on the 8th ball and misses both.  He still strikes out for 266.

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APheLion

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Re: Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes)
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2007, 10:37:58 AM »
learn jr's record wont be matched by anyone even close, that was just way too many strikes

btw, i got 15 of the world tenpin master videos, making a dvd soon
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Siniak

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Re: Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes)
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2007, 03:57:49 PM »
Here's a fun link from the barnes vs belmo match:
http://stage6.divx.com/user/Apogiffa/video/1569408/WTM-Barnes-twohanded

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shelley

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Re: Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes)
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2007, 11:31:56 PM »
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learn jr's record wont be matched by anyone even close, that was just way too many strikes


In four games, he struck 44 out of 48 times.  His opponents struck 42 out of 48 times.  Whenever I'm in a slump, I watch that show.

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Re: Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes)
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2007, 10:26:07 AM »
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Here's a fun link from the barnes vs belmo match:
http://stage6.divx.com/user/Apogiffa/video/1569408/WTM-Barnes-twohanded



hahaha i loved that part, cuz before in the match against palermaa, he said he was going to leave the 2h style for osku, but i think after that he wanted to show little bit

hahaha
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When a house bowler misses the mark, misses the break point and strike, for many ppl its called a wallshot. When a pro does that its call adjustment

When a house bowler gets his finger stuck in the ball and fall on the lanes, for many ppl its called lame bowler. When a pro does that its called the Machuga flop! ha i like this one.
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Re: Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes)
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2007, 09:06:28 PM »
Im surprised the cover on the ball wasn't peeling off onto the lanes after each shot. That is an enormous amount of revolutions. If im not mistaken he threw one ball with I think 585 revolutions on it. The pins don't have a prayer. Don't have to worry about to many corner pins with screaming messengers flying around. I don't even think Robert Smith puts that much zip on the ball
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Re: Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes)
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2007, 10:33:26 AM »
Back when PBA and ESPN were showing speed and RPM numbers in their telecast several bowlers showed to be in the 500+ RPM and 20+ MPH range.  Smith was one, and this was when he was throwing Sarge Easter and not turning on it as much as he can.  Jason Couch is another that I can remember seeing on these telecasts.  Most of the pros were high 300s RPM and 18 to 19 MPH.

I'm trying to find some video of one of these.  On Strikepass you can see the '02 Flagship Open right now.  I watched it the other day and I remember from the first match, Healey vs. Smith, Healey was around 385/19 and Smith at 515/21.  Healey was hitting the same RPM/Speed every shot and had something like the front 7, while Smith was lost and his RPMs were anywhere from 520 to 480.
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JMORRIS

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Re: Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes)
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2007, 10:46:11 AM »
Do they always only bowl on 1 lane?
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shelley

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Re: Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes)
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2007, 10:55:39 AM »
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Do they always only bowl on 1 lane?


Some of those international competitions are like that.  The Weber Cup and Tenpin Masters that I've seen televised from the UK or Europe are always on one lane.  The big competitions with dozens or hundreds of players are at a bowling center, but the small team competitions and telecasts are on one lane.

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Re: Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes)
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2007, 10:59:37 AM »

I sat and watched this on sky, and recorded it. It was a superb display by both bowlers. Jason hit the first 18 in a row had an open then struck out and Paul bowled well too...he's now been runner up for the last 3 years in this event. With regards to Jason's rev rate he threw quite a few shot where he was over 600+ and not just by 1 or 2 but in the 610's and this was measured on a C.A.T.'s machine.Osku also had similar rev's when he bowled. All in all it was a great competition to watch.
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Re: Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes)
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2007, 02:19:54 PM »
Can anybody read what their ball speed was? cheers.
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boondoggle

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Re: Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes)
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2007, 02:35:32 PM »
Looks to me like 29 to 30 km/h for Moor. Works out to around 18 mph.

and 35 to 36 km/h for Belmonte, which would be around 22 mph.

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Siniak

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Re: Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes)
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2007, 04:12:03 PM »
There's a clip here showing Robert Smith hit 640 rpm:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ht8KS4S3WJY

Anyway, average speed and revs shown at the start of some of the WTM clips:

Belmonte, 34,6 km/h, 575 rpm
Moor, 29,8 km/h, 300 rpm

Palermaa, 31,2 km/h, 575 rpm
Barnes, 30,7 km/h, 400 rpm
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