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Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes)
« on: August 23, 2007, 08:29:35 AM »
First game 300 to 279.  

Part 1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-lodT9V_14

Part 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOU5z2MENag

If you squint you can see speed and RPM numbers

Looks like Moor is low 300s.  Belmonte is high 500s.

Also at the end of the match they show an overhead diagram of the line each bowler was taking and an overlay of the variance in their shot.

 

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Re: Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes)
« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2007, 04:45:38 AM »
Just a bit more info you guys.

In the final the scores (over two games) were:-

Jason Belmonte 566 - Paul Moor 524!!

Jason had a tournament average of 260.375!

Both players had to work hard to reach the title match as Moor defeated Biboy Rivera (Philippines), Alex Liew (Malaysia) and Remy Ong (Singapore), while Belmonte ousted Jens Nickel (Germany), Badr Al Sheikh (Saudi Arabia) and defending champion Chris Barnes (United States).

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Re: Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes)
« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2007, 10:59:04 AM »
i disagree, the only factor that might give high score is the one lane format. the shot was actually pretty tough, from what i can see, theres not much backend, and if u let it go out, it wasnt commin back

the bowlers that u see are not just good bowlers, they are pretty much the number ones in their places. plus, the use brand new twisted pins, another factor that might prevent high scores

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I'm not saying it wasnt a fair match, I'm just saying that the lane was a little "fixed" for some higher scores

There were both bowling on the same shot, same lanes ect..so its pretty fair. I

I was was just saying the they were wetup for higher socres.
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Re: Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes)
« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2007, 11:08:47 AM »
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plus, the use brand new twisted pins, another factor that might prevent high scores


Well according to Twister pins website, I found this information:

"This means scoring levels remain the same and bowlers can expect the same pin action from day one"

So the new pins are not a factor.

Not saying these guys are not good, they bowl for a living, but nobody else sees the back curtian as problem in this match ?..lol

Just watch a few of the replays in slow-mo of the strikes, observe the carry....Look a little "much" ?
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Re: Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes)
« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2007, 08:34:55 AM »
i remember that from the mouth of Chris Barnes and Linda Barnes that for twisted pins u have to hit them harder in order to carry. If im not wrong that should be from last year's competition when both of them had a chance to go to the booth to comment for certain match

the companies are all about marketing, i believe more in the pros that plays the game to make a living

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plus, the use brand new twisted pins, another factor that might prevent high scores


Well according to Twister pins website, I found this information:

"This means scoring levels remain the same and bowlers can expect the same pin action from day one"

So the new pins are not a factor.

Not saying these guys are not good, they bowl for a living, but nobody else sees the back curtian as problem in this match ?..lol

Just watch a few of the replays in slow-mo of the strikes, observe the carry....Look a little "much" ?
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When faced with a difficult situation, Jesus asks himself, "What would Chuck Norris do?"

Robo-Arm bowlers SUCK...

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When a house bowler misses the mark, misses the break point and strike, for many ppl its called a wallshot. When a pro does that its call adjustment

When a house bowler gets his finger stuck in the ball and fall on the lanes, for many ppl its called lame bowler. When a pro does that its called the Machuga flop! ha i like this one.

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Re: Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes)
« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2007, 07:04:50 PM »
302EFI Heres one thing youve gotta realize 2 of the 3 of the videos you posted are on AMF machines and the 3rd is on a brunswick A or A2 not sure the design of those machines from the GS-X Are 100% different the free hanging curtain absorbs energy more then the A2 or AMF
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Re: Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes)
« Reply #36 on: October 06, 2007, 07:06:47 PM »
One more thing i forgot to mention is that also when you have a rev rate of 550+ you make the pins fly more and the GS-X also have much more lively side walls
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Re: Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes)
« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2007, 06:30:56 PM »
Why are some on here getting upset because someone pointed out the conditions were easy?  I'm sorry but on tough patterns no one scores really high.

Still it's a great feat to shoot that many strikes even on an easy pattern.  These guys are obviously very good bowlers.

I still wonder why Belmonte won't bowl in the PBA?

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Re: Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes)
« Reply #38 on: November 21, 2007, 06:37:24 PM »
Isn't this a little older?
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Re: Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes)
« Reply #39 on: November 21, 2007, 06:45:09 PM »
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Isn't this a little older?
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I just noticed that!  My bad!

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Re: Belmonte Vs. Moor 07 World Masters (23 Strikes)
« Reply #40 on: November 22, 2007, 09:02:47 PM »
I guess I'm not up on international competition, but why do they only bowl on one lane?