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dizzyfugu

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Dizzyfugu - Update on style
« on: January 06, 2008, 06:47:07 PM »
Hello everyone,

coming back from my last inquiry in Oct. 07 I am proud to present some improvements concerning my approach and release, working on some suggestions I received 3 months ago.

Last Saturday I was able to take some video footage from single training from various angles:
http://media.putfile.com/DizzyFugu-Bowling-Style-Study-January-2008

Beware, it is 6 min. long, because I wanted to provide multiple shots and some not-so-good attempts. I used my Pure Hammer and Revolution Renegade - through video edit the balls became mixed up, so that the ball reaction can differ from shot to shot (the Renegade generally reacts later and sharper, so that I had to play it on a slightly deeper line than the Pure Hammer). Both balls were taped for better observation.

IMHO my overall timing has improved - mostly due to less lift during the push-away (even though the vids show still a lot of upward movement, more than it felt like...) and a stronger bend of my slinding knee's leg, so that the slide really precedes the release.
What I can work on is my trailing leg - I guess that when I keep it straighter and turn it around a little more, I'd get even better balance and leverage.
Release and ball reaction are IMHO O.K., I get a very powerful roll out of my equipment, more than enough for my lower speed.

Good news, too: yesterday I had my league start, and with a free mind and good timing as seen on the video I was able to string together a 211 average!

Again, thanks for your suggestions, and please add comments if you see something strange.
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Re: Dizzyfugu - Update on style
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2008, 05:17:03 PM »
Hey dizzy, my advice would be is you look a little too stiff with your walk and your swing a little controlled. I would see if you can get a little smoother with the approach and work on freeing up the swing a bit more. Getting there though
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Re: Dizzyfugu - Update on style
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2008, 08:19:38 PM »
Just let that ball go.  You don't need to manipulate it AT ALL.  There's no extra motion there, just keep your hand behind it, let go, and follow through, and you won't believe how much it'll hook.  Then you can get your speed up and great things will start to happen.  It looks like you're trying too hard to manipulate the ball; that tape should go end over end, not rolling to the side like you see it there.

I also see what VRbowling is saying about the smoothness of your approach.

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Re: Dizzyfugu - Update on style
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2008, 09:25:02 PM »
quote:
Just let that ball go.  You don't need to manipulate it AT ALL.  There's no extra motion there, just keep your hand behind it, let go, and follow through, and you won't believe how much it'll hook.  Then you can get your speed up and great things will start to happen.  It looks like you're trying too hard to manipulate the ball; that tape should go end over end, not rolling to the side like you see it there.

I also see what VRbowling is saying about the smoothness of your approach.


I agree.  I don't remember if I even commented on your previous study but I did watch the videos and observe.  I can see quite a bit of improvement at the release, but your arm swing still seems a little muscled/forced (aka manipulated).  

How often do you bowl without the brace?  I think maybe ditching that thing may help free up your arm swing.  I had one that my old coach used to work with me on to try and keep me from snapping my wrist at release but what it made me end up doing is chicken wing my swing (bend my elbow slightly).  I could feel that I muscled the ball alot with that, and you may try practicing without it and see if you free it up (try videoing that too and comparing).

Other than that, the only thing I see is that maybe a little more knee bend can get you lower at the line with more leverage and also keep you from lofting the ball as much.  Keep up the improvements

Later,

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Re: Dizzyfugu - Update on style
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2008, 02:58:50 AM »
Hi all,

thank you for your replies. Well, about the "stiffness" - it is something other bowlers have been talking about with me, too, even though I must say it does not feel so to me. They also mention that my head was "bobbing" while walking on the approach - I did not find this to be too severe in the films, but external eyes see more/different things from the subjective perception, so I am glad about your suggestions.

I use the brace all the time, unfortunately. My wrist is not the strongest/biggest (quite slender/thin, "pianist hands"), and I had a bad wrist injury almost 2 years ago while playing and "overdoing" bowling without any support. At that time I had a poor release and struggled to gain revs - but I got wiser and learned to let the ball do what it was designed for on the lane.
Since healing and thereafter, I have been using the brace, even though I tried several times without it with mixed success. It works, but not for long (4 games max.). I still use it mainly as a preventive tool, to distribute the ball's weight while holding it in the approach position and in the forward swing phase. It is not intended for revs - in fact, my "natural" release is a rather snapping wrist motion that also took its toll on my hand, and with the back support from the ProRelease things got a lot more controlled. I think I'd need lots of wrist training, and I do not want to risk an injury again. At the m oment, it works and I am fine with it.

Another thing I am working on is the release point of the ball. You are correct, I am a little late - but compared to the past I made a tremendous progress. 1 year ago I still used to loft the orb out to the arrows, and since then I have been working a lot on an earlier release point, paired with a more upright upper body.
The latter, combined with slightly flexed knees throughout the delivery and a CG shift of my body backwards has been the key for improvement so far. I can feel and see it though the much better/cleaner ball reaction I get. But I am with you, I still can let the ball go fraction of a second earlier, you can still hear it bounce when it lands on the lane. A ninja release is still a dream, but probably the key to more progress.

Do you think my swing is forced? I put some conscious muscle to the swing in the forward phase, coming "through the ball". One thing I am still working on is the drop-down phase, because I used to lift the ball upwards from the starting point at waist level. My league start last weekend was with a conscious effort to push the ball rather forward - and it paid off, because it was in better sync with my slide (a tad later), for very good leverage and effortless control. Maybe I put some more muscle than necessary on the swing in the film because my pendulum is still a little late there.
 
I found that very minute things have a recognizable impact on my game, and I am probably a bit too conscious about the things I do... The knee bend is another piece that I found crucial - I generally don't bend enough, but when I concentrate on getting down, I feel that my release instantly improves (concerning consistency and also leverage). You have very keen eyes, and this confirms my personal impressions.

Thanks a lot for your support, your feedback is highly appreciated, and I am happy that the video shots are that revealing!
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Re: Dizzyfugu - Update on style
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2008, 03:20:26 PM »
Dizzy, I used to bowl with a brace also.  Now I use a Storm glove, Extra Grip Plus.  It's not as bulky as the wrist support you're using.  It's a glove but has a wrap just at the wrist area so you can't break your wrist back too far.  I can still cup my wrist w/out fear now & still have flexibility.  My team mates saw me chicken winging w/my big support & then that's when I got the glove plus.  Use it in practice a few times before breaking it out in league.  You'll feel the difference.
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Re: Dizzyfugu - Update on style
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2008, 02:09:25 AM »
I do not use the ProRelease to full extent - I leave the band that is supposed to hold the palm against the hand extension away, so that I can still move my hand without much restriction. I tried the "complete package" when I got the support 2 and a half years ago, when I thought it would help with revs, but I quickly discarded it because the feeling with a fully bound hand is... wacky, to say the least. I did not use any support thereafter, until I ruined my hand.

When I brought the ProRelease back to light, I just several things with it, until I discussed my hand problem with a fellow bowler who had a similar problem with his hand, and he was quite happy to use his Power Paw without the hand strip, too. After trying this way, I found it to be the best compromise between a free hand (I tend to cup it just before the release) and enough support to keep too much stress from the muscles and tendons. Still, I do not like the device solution very much, but it works and I am on the safe side concerning my health.

I also tried other solutions, e. g. a smaller support (Robby) or a rubber glove for extra hold - but I must say that the current ProRelease solution works best, and the device is still light/sleek enough not to hinder my game. I also tried a large Storm support, but then I truly felt like a passenger to my game, no feeling for the ball at all!

But I think about trying a smaller/lighter device again
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Re: Dizzyfugu - Update on style
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2008, 02:00:26 AM »
Thanks a lot for the input! Yes, I considered a coach several times, but lack of time during the week kept me from realizing this. But you are right, and I share your impression. My big problem is consistency, and getting the fundamentals together.

Since September last year I have to work more, and I feel that the lack of practice (I used to play twice per week, now I am reduced to single sessions) takes its toll, even though I have been trying to improve the "mechanics". I think I am on the right way, or at least a better, but some external help might really be necessary.

Again, thank you for all the impressions and a lot of confirmations. You are a great help!
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Re: Dizzyfugu - Update on style
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2008, 06:41:12 AM »
Your footwork and timing are way off. A good coach may try to simplify things and suggest a 4 step delivery for you. Good Luck. Nice shots.