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Buckwild

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Filming Tips
« on: March 18, 2010, 04:12:44 AM »
Since I practice by myself most of the time, I'm trying to rely to video to see what I'm doing right and wrong. Right now I am using a Kodak Zi6 digital video camera and a tripod.

Where are the best places to set up the tripod so I can get my entire body in the shot and where should I set it up to show the best angles?

 

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Re: Filming Tips
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2010, 12:17:21 PM »
I dont mean to sound rude, but obviously if you are right handed, wouldnt it make sense to put the tripod on your right hand side.?    Put it just behind the approach.

Lower the tripod as low as it will go and do some lane / release shots.

If you bowl 3 games, try 3 different angles and when you go home to edit / watch the video, see what angle you like best......


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Re: Filming Tips
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2010, 12:30:17 PM »
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I dont mean to sound rude, but obviously if you are right handed, wouldnt it make sense to put the tripod on your right hand side.?    Put it just behind the approach.

Lower the tripod as low as it will go and do some lane / release shots.

If you bowl 3 games, try 3 different angles and when you go home to edit / watch the video, see what angle you like best......




Not always the case as he could be doing something on his left side that throws him off.

I would suggest doing a game from the left, doing a game from the right, and doing one from the rear.  depending on how the house is set up you should do one on lane 1 to film front left, and the highest lane to film from right.
I used to throw at least 6 games for practice so you should be able to fit in all of the angles.
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Re: Filming Tips
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2010, 12:31:02 PM »
I should have more specific. I know the camera will be behind/ to the right side, but I wanted to know from others experience, how far back, how high should the tripod be set and how the camera should be tilted. As far as the different angles, what are the best locations. I'm not taking it as you being rude, but it is not as obvious as you state.

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Re: Filming Tips
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2010, 12:40:45 PM »
quote:
I should have more specific. I know the camera will be behind/ to the right side, but I wanted to know from others experience, how far back, how high should the tripod be set and how the camera should be tilted. As far as the different angles, what are the best locations. I'm not taking it as you being rude, but it is not as obvious as you state.


I would say:

     c           c



     c     b     c



     c           c

As far as heigth I wouldn't worry so long as you get a full body shot.
I would only tilt if you are zooming ie zoom in at the foul line to catch your release.

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Re: Filming Tips
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2010, 12:46:54 PM »
quote:
quote:
I should have more specific. I know the camera will be behind/ to the right side, but I wanted to know from others experience, how far back, how high should the tripod be set and how the camera should be tilted. As far as the different angles, what are the best locations. I''m not taking it as you being rude, but it is not as obvious as you state.


I would say:

     c           c



     c     b     c



     c           c

As far as heigth I wouldn''t worry so long as you get a full body shot.
I would only tilt if you are zooming ie zoom in at the foul line to catch your release.

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Thanks Live,

Could you explain the b and c''s? Maybe in posting the letters were in different spots.

Edited on 3/18/2010 12:47 PM

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Re: Filming Tips
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2010, 12:50:09 PM »
quote:
quote:
quote:
I should have more specific. I know the camera will be behind/ to the right side, but I wanted to know from others experience, how far back, how high should the tripod be set and how the camera should be tilted. As far as the different angles, what are the best locations. I''m not taking it as you being rude, but it is not as obvious as you state.


I would say:

-----C-----------C



-----C-----B-----C



-----C-----------C

As far as heigth I wouldn''t worry so long as you get a full body shot.
I would only tilt if you are zooming ie zoom in at the foul line to catch your release.

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Thanks Live,

Could you explain the b and c''s? Maybe in posting the letters were in different spots.

Edited on 3/18/2010 12:47 PM


oops  I forgot it doesn't keep spaces

C= Camera
B= Bowler
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Re: Filming Tips
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2010, 02:06:18 PM »
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
I should have more specific. I know the camera will be behind/ to the right side, but I wanted to know from others experience, how far back, how high should the tripod be set and how the camera should be tilted. As far as the different angles, what are the best locations. I''m not taking it as you being rude, but it is not as obvious as you state.


I would say:

-----C-----------C



-----C-----B-----C



-----C-----------C

As far as heigth I wouldn''t worry so long as you get a full body shot.
I would only tilt if you are zooming ie zoom in at the foul line to catch your release.

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Thanks Live,

Could you explain the b and c''s? Maybe in posting the letters were in different spots.

Edited on 3/18/2010 12:47 PM


oops  I forgot it doesn't keep spaces

C= Camera
B= Bowler
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Re: Filming Tips
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2010, 05:31:42 AM »
very simple, go to ur center, open an even lane, and put the tripod in 2 positions, one at ur starting point towards the foul line, the other at the foul line towards ur starting point


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Re: Filming Tips
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2010, 05:54:25 AM »
What I find important angles are:

a) A shot from your bowling hand's side, 90° to the approach, so you catch the whole approach from your adress position to the foul line. Will need 3-4 lanes' space, so better do this early in the morning.

b) A shot down 2nd arrow, with the camera almost at gound level. You see your sliding foot and hopefully the ball release from behind, as well as the ball's reaction (taping PAP and maybe the finger holes is recommended). Good to check timing and your release point, and what you actually do with your hand.

c) Similar shot, just from further behind and maybe from a higher position. Shows drifting and imbalances well.

d) Shot from the counter-side, maybe from the lane next to you and from further behind, so you catch your delivery and the whole lane. Shows not much of the release, but this angle makes IMO sense when you have taped the ball - you see how the MB migrates towards its PSA and the ball's axis trasition and reaction. Very insightful to judge a ball reaction, esp. when you apply different releases.
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