Author Topic: Help me with my release. (Read 6474 times)

CorporalBruno · « **on:** August 04, 2011, 01:12:50 PM »

Hi. I need help developing more revs. Please let me know if you have any tips based on my videos. Thanks!

Corporal Bruno

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bullred · « **Reply #1 on:** August 04, 2011, 11:30:23 PM »

Corporal, using a Nano on a THS, you need low revs. Otherwise you'll never get the ball to the pins.

But if you have to have more revs, find you a shined Pearl or plastic, learn to roll the ball off your hand, not throw it. If you learn the technique, that's all the ball you'll need

CorporalBruno · « **Reply #2 on:** August 04, 2011, 11:49:29 PM »

Thanks. I have plenty of lower end bowling balls. I have the lanebreaker, gamebreaker, vibe, fast, and even a grenade.

I must say I don't really throw the ball nearly as bad as I used to. I have only been bowling 4 years. Rolling the ball was one of the biggest bits of advice I got from my local proshop. But, my release is very clean and my thumb pitch is perfect for me so I don't grab the ball. I just need to develop that technique to increase my revs to match my ball speed. I don't mind moving way left or even switching to a less expensive ball.

I appreciate the input! Keep it coming guys. Does anyone see something I am doing incorrectly in my timing or release that will help increase revs?

Here is another link to the videos.

Thanks Corporal Bruno!

Average 205

dizzyfugu · « **Reply #3 on:** August 05, 2011, 12:03:20 AM »

Hard to tell from just one shot, but timing looks good and the release is IMO smooth. But the criticla question: why do you think you need more revs? Totally agree with the former post: it rather looks as if you need (relatively) more speed or less ball - the ball you use starts hooking after half the lane, almost from the gutter, so I's say you need more length and a rather delayed break point, and less boards covered.

Adding speed is one option (but could easily compromise timing), or change your hand position so that you decrease hook and delay the breakpoint.

Honestly, I do not see a real need for more revs?

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CorporalBruno · « **Reply #4 on:** August 05, 2011, 12:18:51 AM »

Thanks for that input. I am starting to understand the two of you. The reason I want more revs isn't because I or don't need them, it's because I can't stand not knowing how to do something. I want to learn how to use the revs when I need them. At this point you could put me in a shot situation / ball situation where the only way I am going to strike is use a ton more revs than I have and I would be helpless.

I guess in short, I need to learn how to have more revs so that I can add it to my bowling arsenal.

Again, thanks for all the help guys. For those of you catching up and anything like me, I don't like to scroll up, so here are the videos in question. I am trying to learn how to increase revs when I need to, any help you can provide is much appreciated. Bless.

Corporal Bruno

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Locke · « **Reply #5 on:** August 05, 2011, 01:32:30 AM »

Looking at timing you are looking good but it looks like you are releasing the ball too far forward. To get more revs you want better leverage. Optimum leverage on release happens right next to your left ankle. So I would try to stay back at the line a little more and like was said before imagine that you are rolling the ball instead of the throwing the ball. To start you will probably see a loss in speed in doing this but as you get used to it your speed will come back up and you will be looking at more rpms.

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CorporalBruno · « **Reply #6 on:** August 05, 2011, 08:05:23 AM »

Thanks!

I will definitely try this.

I also had a reply directly to one of my videos that I should attempt to turn my wrist outward through my swing which will change the axis tilt of the ball in turn causing less side roll and increasing my revs.

That makes sense in terms of physics. So I will try both. I practiced without a ball and it seems doing it this way may in fact force me to release the ball at my ankle because my arm doesn't go forward that well past that point with my wrist in the outward position.

Keep it coming guys I appreciate all the help! If you don't mind helping me longer term feel free to register/subscribe to my channel on youtube. When I put up a video with the changes you can help critique it!

You guys/gals rock!

Corporal Bruno

Average 205

SPR3WR · « **Reply #7 on:** August 05, 2011, 10:41:43 PM »

Anatomy of an Elite Release: How to Improve Your Rev Rate

http://bowlingknowledge.info/images/stories/slowinskijune11.pdf

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BuzzsawCrazy · « **Reply #8 on:** August 29, 2011, 06:46:29 PM »

Your armswing needs to be alittle bit more loose and in timing with your footwork. Your hand should be on the inside of the ball at approach which would be your hand at 8 o'clock. On the downswing you should feel like your driving the ball into the floor.Your hand should stay inside throughout the armswing then right before it gets to your ankle on the downswing your hand should go from 8 to about 2 o'clock all in one motion with your thumb leaving the ball first with your fingers snapping out of the ball last creating revolutions on the balling ball.

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SPR3WR · « **Reply #9 on:** August 31, 2011, 03:07:26 PM »

your turning your hand early and chicken wing the flow through.

release

http://s943.photobucket.com/albums/ad272/spr3wr/?action=view&current=CorporalBrunorelease.jpg

http://s943.photobucket.com/albums/ad272/spr3wr/?action=view&current=CorporalBrunofollowthrough.jpg

http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/index.php?title=Fundamentals_of_the_Modern_Release

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bullred · « **Reply #10 on:** August 31, 2011, 04:28:15 PM »

Bruno, If you will be more observant, you will see the "revs" are developed more on the backswing and downswing up until the "release" The release point is actually a "deadzone" No really magic moves at release. Just getting the hand in position and "let it go". No big ripping followthrough. The revs and power are developed in the "downswing", all it needs is a clean release.

Fuggin · « **Reply #11 on:** September 14, 2011, 05:38:04 AM »

This is what I have been doing.

http://www.bowlingknowledge.info/images/stories/slowinskiapr08.pdf

But the key above all is to just keep the hand behind the ball at the point of release.

se7en · « **Reply #12 on:** October 13, 2011, 01:09:49 PM »

Look at a high rev bowler in slow motion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyVY1UFopE4

The key points are:

Fingers on the inside of the ball.

Wrist unloads at the last second to let the thumb clear the ball before the fingers follow through.

Hand comes straight up the back.

Grip and arm swing relaxed.

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