Post by: gtkpr31 on March 09, 2008, 04:45:16 PM
. Let me know what you think.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhWJcRVKaXU
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Post by: John D Davis on March 10, 2008, 12:53:39 AM
Post by: dizzyfugu on March 10, 2008, 04:49:34 AM
).Try to bend your left knee more, while keeping the upper body upright. Ideally, the thumb comes out of the ball before the ball passes your sliding foot's ankle, and will land in a smoother way, in a horizontal trajectory. It might even give you more lift on the ball!
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Post by: se7en on March 10, 2008, 09:36:25 AM
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Post by: Phoneman on March 10, 2008, 09:46:13 AM
Post by: dizzyfugu on March 10, 2008, 12:07:50 PM
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Falling off half your shots can't possibly equate to consistent scoring over the long run though (maybe on a THS). His leverage isn't maximized.
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That's what I mean. It works ...somehow. But every shot differs from the one before, and I am sure with a more stable finish at the foul line gtkpr31 has much more potential to set free. And mit might just be such a simple thing like a knee bend and foot slide.
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Post by: Brickguy221 on March 10, 2008, 12:55:00 PM
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Try to bend your left knee more, while keeping the upper body upright. Ideally, the thumb comes out of the ball before the ball passes your sliding foot's ankle, and will land in a smoother way, in a horizontal trajectory. It might even give you more lift on the ball!
Although this is true, bear in mind that some of us can barely bend our knee.
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Post by: gtkpr31 on March 10, 2008, 03:17:39 PM
Does anyone find a terrible problem with the path of my approach as it relates to the big step left i take to 1. allow my ball to get to the right and 2. to remedy the drift right on my slide? If it's a big problem, how would I remedy it?
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Post by: Hogsharley on March 10, 2008, 06:34:47 PM
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I beg to differ.
If the method works for one, why change it? I had ditched the "ideal" or "textbook" method of bowling and had been bowling better and better. True, some fundamentals have to be followed, but it's the end results that count. Everybody is different and so is our body. Not everyone can be as textbook as Chris Barnes or Parker Bohn III. Look at WRW and Mika Koivuniemi or better yet, Jason Belmonte and you know what I mean. These guys still achieve the end results, striking and winning.
gtkpr31, if it works for you, don't change anything. Unless you are in a slump or can't score elsewhere, don't mess your game. I had mess up my game and in a slump for one year after I try to do bowling in a "textbook" manner. Now I'm back and better!
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The guy comes on here and asks us to critique him. If he feels his game was sound, he wouldn't come on here and ask. He may be scoring well with his sytle but his style could use some work.
gtkpr31, you can try some of the pointer's that these BR members mentioned here. They may or may not improve your game but as LL mentioned, not everyone's style has to be texrbook. If if works for you, who's to say that you're doing it wrong. The name of the game is to knock down as many pins as possible, no matter how it is done.
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Post by: NicholasE on March 10, 2008, 06:43:30 PM
Just something to keep in mind, sometimes you kept balance and some you did not. I'm exactly the same way so just going from my experience is what I'm going off of.
Other then that the way you walk up there, as long as you do the same thing and it doesn't throw you off that should be just fine because some drift some don't and all sort of stuff so I wouldn't worry about that too much but balance at the line is the main thing I think.
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Post by: APheLion on March 11, 2008, 04:09:20 PM
that can be good or can be bad, dependin on how "stable" ur move to left and right are, if u can always finish where u want, then forget about it, its good, if u cant, then try something to fix it
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Post by: chaos10187 on March 16, 2008, 12:38:12 AM
I would take a look at BrunsNick's videos, he has a good power game that has all of these things.
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Post by: 1MechEng on March 16, 2008, 09:01:14 AM
You certainly have some power in your game. However, I worry that you are really trying to "muscle" the shot - sacrificing some smoothness in order to increase your revs.
I see a lot of drift in your approach to the line, and a lot of elbow bend to try to generate the larger flat spot in the swing to get your revs.
Also, you have very little slide, preferring instead to plant and rip it.
These are all non-typical motions that are generally regarded as inconsistent with the "ideal" bowling swing and release.
However, I agree with other posters that if you are comfortable and can be consistent, then there is little point in changing it.
I don't know if this will hurt you or help you, but I would try straightening your elbow. This will encourage a straighter, less muscled swing. I think you still have more than enough wrist strength to get good leverage (and revs) on the ball. It will also give you a more consistent line, and allow you to play a little straighter. This will help on tougher oil patterns, where consistency is critical.
Thanks for posting, and good luck! Hope this helps.
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Post by: gtkpr31 on March 23, 2008, 11:00:14 AM
My timing is late for a reason, when my timing is earlier, I chicken wing it. I drift for a reason. Since I'm not 150 pounds, when I slide, my legs are bigger and I cannot slide directly straight so I walk left to prevent myself from being 10 boards right of where I start. My knees don't bend a lot for a reason. If I bend my knees a lot, my spine tilt gets too far forward causing me to loft the ball terribly and grab it at the bottom of the swing.
I agree I do need to work on my balance at the line. I've seen worse arm swings in my time (Mike Scroggins). Also, if you paid any attention to the videos, you can clearly see I am not trying to hook the whole lane in all of them. I do what the lanes dictate. I'm on the 13 board in half of the videos and I'm only right of 20 about 3 of the shots. If I wanted to hook the whole lane like a tool, I would.
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