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General Category => Bowling Videos => Topic started by: NicholasE on January 29, 2008, 02:31:37 PM
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Here it is. I laid the ball out to have a big arch but smooth and controllable. Thats exactly what I got with a layout of 20 * 5 * 30 using the dual angle layout. I know the style of bowling isn't that great but the ball reaction makes up for it, I know how many questions get asked about how good is this ball, well I put it up on the Viper pattern and it worked well playing in deep or right up the 1st arrow. Viper pattern has many angles that a ball can strike from and this ball does it all without an overreaction like what I got out of my 2 Nsanes, which are just backend monsters.
Here ya go. Don't be to ruff on style here, not going for grace points, just strikes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV9KA4c79Fk
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Nah, its cut, the first part on the THS those are just easy, but the Viper is a easy pattern if you know how to play it. With the LevRG it stays controllable on the backend so it was easy to find the pocket. To be honest the Line I was using to get to the pocket was the worst line for that ball. I had a much better look playing up the boards at the first arrow but didn't figure that out soon enough for this video. LevRG also has some tremendous pin carry but can come in light sometimes but it has enough core to trip the 4's most of the times.
I'm no where near being on tour but hope to progress my way up there one day. I've only been bowling for about 2.5 years. I'm doing ok, but I have a bad back and that really kills me on form so...I don't know if I'll make it but hopefully. 
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IMO.... if you could stick the line, all the time, i think you be much better. most the balls you were throwing, and falling over, were high or light. when you stuck it, it came right in the pocket. everyone has their own style of bowling, the short back swing you have, and just dumping it on the lane with lots of revs might work perfect for you. you just have to remember to hit your mark and stick that line. nice videos.
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I totally agree with you mike. I've gotten alot better since I started the PBA league though. Last week I was pretty consistent on the chameleon. My highest game up until that pattern was a 175. Thats playing the cheeta and viper twice each for league, then this week I shot a 201 the first game but it decreased a little with a 189 and 177. Bowling in this league makes me feel like crap but I'm getting much better as to where on a THS you can just spray it, I think the PBA lanes have helped keep me more consistent.
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Nice bowling. No offense to you NicholasE but why is it everytime someone post a video and they show them bowling on there THS shot and then on a PBA pattern that everytime it's either the Cheetah or the Viper. The two easiest patterns where you have room to miss and have multipal angles to the pocket. Why don't people put vids up of them throwing on the Chameleon, Shark, or the Scorpion. Something that actually requires repetition and accuracy. Just something ive been thinking about because thats all I have seen on here. Pretty much everybody can bring a ball back on the Cheetah and Viper.
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well we have a video of us on the chameleon and it is by far the easiest pattern we've bowled on so far. will b posting soon..buzzsaw.
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Nice bowling. No offense to you NicholasE but why is it everytime someone post a video and they show them bowling on there THS shot and then on a PBA pattern that everytime it's either the Cheetah or the Viper. The two easiest patterns where you have room to miss and have multipal angles to the pocket. Why don't people put vids up of them throwing on the Chameleon, Shark, or the Scorpion. Something that actually requires repetition and accuracy. Just something ive been thinking about because thats all I have seen on here. Pretty much everybody can bring a ball back on the Cheetah and Viper.
I guess some people don't have the option of bowling on anything but a THS or one of the easier PBA patterns.
When I practice, unfortunately, it's on a THS. Which is why I go to a different house every weekend to practice. (or at least I try to).
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Solid 7 Pin?? 299 Game??!! WTF
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is your name illusion bc it gives the illusion that you actually bowl well when in all actuality u suck and throw up the right side and are jealous becuase you want that much hook so you buy all the new equipment but yet it still goes straight.
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and guess what this isnt an illusion. u just got BURNED!!
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Nice bowling. No offense to you NicholasE but why is it everytime someone post a video and they show them bowling on there THS shot and then on a PBA pattern that everytime it's either the Cheetah or the Viper. The two easiest patterns where you have room to miss and have multipal angles to the pocket. Why don't people put vids up of them throwing on the Chameleon, Shark, or the Scorpion. Something that actually requires repetition and accuracy. Just something ive been thinking about because thats all I have seen on here. Pretty much everybody can bring a ball back on the Cheetah and Viper.
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15lb. Crystal Diamond
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None taken, but like rhbowler07 said thats the only patterns we have gotten to here recently. I have other videos, one being on the Chameleon with my Nsane. I don't have an option to layout what pattern I want, I only get the option of whats laid out for that league night. We do cheetah x2, viper x2, chameleon x2, scorpion x2, then shark x2 in that order so just hold your horses and I'll have them all out there. As far as it being easy on the cheetah and viper I have to disagree. I really hated those patterns, when we went to the chameleon I avg about 40 pins higher then I did on the other 2 patterns. The longer they are the better off I am. I actually love the shark, its a pretty easy pattern because I have a Total Shock & awe that eats that pattern alive.
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Just another form based around trying to create the biggest hook possible.
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What does this have anything to do with the ball? Thats my form and thats just how I bowl. But I can play from anywhere on the lane. Don't let the video fool you. I've won more tournaments playing up the first arrow then swinging the ball.
Besides envy is a bad thing. I hate to see it when people can't play anywhere on the lanes and then try to criticize others on the versatility that they themselves lack.
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Edited on 2/16/2008 2:49 AM
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I think your center is lying to you or doesn't understand how to put out the PBA patterns. You threw the same line and had the mistake room on "Viper" as you did on the house shot. I know different houses have different oils, lane machines, lanes..., but I can't think of a combination that should let you free wheel the ball on any of the PBA patterns.
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Telling it like it is.
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Give the kid a break. I bet like me he hasnt been bowling very long and had to teach himself pretty much how to bowl and all you people want to do is say "well yeah u strike but its because of the pattern." What the hell do u want him to do? Laydown the oil himself or better yet maybe he can go to your house where you have your own lanes and drilling equipment and oil machines. Some of you guys just need to learn that just because the kid throws a hook doesnt mean he is coming to take the bullys lunch money...yet
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Uhh.... These are my videos. Don't listen to this guy, I am not him and he is not DJ "DP3" Marshall. Man up and say who you are/what you can do and don't go pulling out random videos on other people's merits to try to validate your arguement.
-Just clearing what's left of my good name
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If you are following his link, its taking you to your videos because the url ends in "my videos" and that guy is stupid to realize that. Its going to take you to your personal videos not his because of the link.
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Envy?....HAHAHA Heres my video piping it up 4, If you want ill post a video of me wheeling the whole lane, But until then id like to see you get that straight, But honestly I create more revolutions with my pinky finger than you get with your whole bent wrist backswing.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.myvideos
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Gonna have to figure out your link there genius. Like DP3 said it takes you to your own myspace videos because you didn't put a direct link to the video. good job! 
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I think your center is lying to you or doesn't understand how to put out the PBA patterns. You threw the same line and had the mistake room on "Viper" as you did on the house shot. I know different houses have different oils, lane machines, lanes..., but I can't think of a combination that should let you free wheel the ball on any of the PBA patterns.
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Telling it like it is.
Well I don't know about that. The viper plays very similar to the house shot but with a lot of less miss room. The video shows it on a Fresh pattern and I couldn't play up the first arrow with the levrg because of the surface so I had to play inside. Have you never watched the PBA or looked on their site. Clearly states you can score from any angle on the lane. Why not keep it close to what Im doing on a house shot? Doesnt that make it less confusing?
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Give the kid a break. I bet like me he hasnt been bowling very long and had to teach himself pretty much how to bowl and all you people want to do is say "well yeah u strike but its because of the pattern." What the hell do u want him to do? Laydown the oil himself or better yet maybe he can go to your house where you have your own lanes and drilling equipment and oil machines. Some of you guys just need to learn that just because the kid throws a hook doesnt mean he is coming to take the bullys lunch money...yet
Thanks, I have only been bowling for 2.5 years and this is my first time on the PBA lanes. People like "the illusion" is loaded with envy because I've accomplished more in 2.5 years then he has the whole time hes been bowling. (however long thats been, don't know and don't care really)
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Envy?....HAHAHA Heres my video piping it up 4, If you want ill post a video of me wheeling the whole lane, But until then id like to see you get that straight, But honestly I create more revolutions with my pinky finger than you get with your whole bent wrist backswing.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.myvideos
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Literallyllly
Oh and I'll have a video of me playing up the 2nd - 3rd arrow on the chameleon soon. Then once I get on the shark I'll teach you how to bring a ball back from the first arrow on that too.
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You've got some revs, but your lay down point and accuracy need some work. You were all over the place on both patterns. Some you layed down smooth, some you lofted to close to the arrows. You're other vids in your profile document what I'm saying better.
And I would agree, it looked like that Viper had lots of miss room. Lane surface might have something to do with it.
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-Clint
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Yeah the aim is off on these videos. I do a little better in league but for the most part I am not that accurate playing a swing. I much rather play straight up the lane because its easier for me to be consistent but that ball just won't work there. I've got a lot to work on thats for sure but it just takes time.
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Just another form based around trying to create the biggest hook possible.
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Literallyllly
What does this have anything to do with the ball? Thats my form and thats just how I bowl. But I can play from anywhere on the lane. Don't let the video fool you. I've won more tournaments playing up the first arrow then swinging the ball.
I don't see how you can be winning tournaments when you say your high game was a 175 until recently when you got a 201.
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well im his partner in tournaments and we practice together twice a week and i dont know where you got 201 high game but thats not true. Maybe on the pba patterns but we out tournaments are played on pba patterns. we both have around a 215-230 average in practice and his high game is 300 and mine is 299.
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Just another form based around trying to create the biggest hook possible.
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Literallyllly
What does this have anything to do with the ball? Thats my form and thats just how I bowl. But I can play from anywhere on the lane. Don't let the video fool you. I've won more tournaments playing up the first arrow then swinging the ball.
I don't see how you can be winning tournaments when you say your high game was a 175 until recently when you got a 201.
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Thats on the PBA shots for the cheetah and the viper, two patterns I hate the most. The tournaments around here are not laid out with the PBA shots. At our center they only lay down the THS of 40'. The other bigger tournament I bowled in was a 42' heavy modified house shot with little miss room and I had an avg of 279 for 5 games which we had to drive 2 hrs one way to get to. So we don't bowl on really tough shots too often.
What i don't understand is how some of you guys on here are so quick to criticize someone else but if someone says something about you, they have committed a sin. At least Im out here trying to help others with showing what a ball can do. I might not be the best and not the most experienced but at least I try.
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I don't mean to knock you, but it's just hard to believe that in 2.5 years you have won 8 tournaments, owned 20+ balls, shot 300, average 279 for a 5 game block (no 800 in there?), and kill PBA patterns like the pros.
Or maybe I'm just envious that in 2.5 years of bowling that you've accomplished more than I have in 23 years.
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-Clint
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well he has been bowling 2.5 years because him and i started at the same time and won the doubles tournaments together.
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First off I usually dont get involved on things like this. Everytime I post something on here people always bash me. I have been bowling since last november. I have had 3 300 games a 298 and a 299. Finished out the 06 07 season with a high average of 214. I am currently averaging with a low of 218 and a high of 228 between 4 different leagues. Some in different houses. Most people think I started bowling young. I am only 25 now. I dont know near as much as alot of people on here. But I can tell you that it is possible for people do get good in a short amount of time. I bowled almost everyday trying to learn the game for a year. I do not spray the ball all over the lane I am very accurate I bowled 2 regionals this year and averaged deuce on both and bowled indiana masters wich is tuff sport shot. Missed match play by 1 pin. But did cash. Nicholas you are a good house bowler right now. Not bashing you or anyone else but if you really want to take it to the next level when you bowl on the house shot focus at a target on the lane not just look right and throw the ball I mean pick a board and really focus. Once you start hitting your target everytime You will take your game up and be better on sport shots. If you miss target and strike it was a bad shot even though it struck. Just focus and try to hit a target. Move around on the lanes swinging it going straight and so on. Also anybody that will every be good will always shoot spares straight on sport shots you cannot hook at spares because there is no free hook on the lane. I bowled a pba experience league during the summer They do use different oils on the regionals and it is laid out different as well. Just because the pba website tells you that you can attack from all angles that means nothing. Depending on lane surface and oil used means everything. Also I have never seen the shark pattern swung out to the first arrow. Maybe pipe it straight up five toward the pocket. The shark 98% of the time has to be played deep inside. Again not trying to bash anyone or trying too toot my own horn I am just saying If you want to get great you will need to learn how to focus on a target I can tell now you are not it looks like you are just looking to the right and throwing it down there.
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This kid posts a video of himself bowling and says "dont bash my style" (not exact words) and what does everyone do..........bash his style let him bowl nice vid by the way keep practicing and work on sticking it as the foul line and youll be lethal
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I don't mean to knock you, but it's just hard to believe that in 2.5 years you have won 8 tournaments, owned 20+ balls, shot 300, average 279 for a 5 game block (no 800 in there?), and kill PBA patterns like the pros.
Or maybe I'm just envious that in 2.5 years of bowling that you've accomplished more than I have in 23 years.
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-Clint
Wasn't exactly pointing anything I said at you but if you want to jump on that band wagon, by all means go right ahead. But yeah, those are the stats. Believe them or not I could really give a crap less.
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Thanks, I have only been bowling for 2.5 years and this is my first time on the PBA lanes. People like "the illusion" is loaded with envy because I've accomplished more in 2.5 years then he has the whole time hes been bowling. (however long thats been, don't know and don't care really)
HAHAHA......I hope to see you at JOG this year.....and from you other post about how you can win playing any line, Id like to see you play right of 20 on ANY PATTERN.....because unless you have some crazy second form that you can use to play straight, I doubt the ball will see right of 15.
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Edited on 2/16/2008 10:58 PM
That video is so amazing. You did exactly what I did and struck... I mean you shot one WHOLE shot...wow. I bow down to you, you are now my hero. Don't worry I will have that vid for you.
ON EDIT: That wasn't even a strike, that was a spare!! haha And you come on here talking about someone hitting a mark and needing to play near the edge!! Before you come on here talking sh*t, be sure you don't make your self look like an A*S!
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Edited on 2/17/2008 0:25 AM
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First off I usually dont get involved on things like this. Everytime I post something on here people always bash me. I have been bowling since last november. I have had 3 300 games a 298 and a 299. Finished out the 06 07 season with a high average of 214. I am currently averaging with a low of 218 and a high of 228 between 4 different leagues. Some in different houses. Most people think I started bowling young. I am only 25 now. I dont know near as much as alot of people on here. But I can tell you that it is possible for people do get good in a short amount of time. I bowled almost everyday trying to learn the game for a year. I do not spray the ball all over the lane I am very accurate I bowled 2 regionals this year and averaged deuce on both and bowled indiana masters wich is tuff sport shot. Missed match play by 1 pin. But did cash. Nicholas you are a good house bowler right now. Not bashing you or anyone else but if you really want to take it to the next level when you bowl on the house shot focus at a target on the lane not just look right and throw the ball I mean pick a board and really focus. Once you start hitting your target everytime You will take your game up and be better on sport shots. If you miss target and strike it was a bad shot even though it struck. Just focus and try to hit a target. Move around on the lanes swinging it going straight and so on. Also anybody that will every be good will always shoot spares straight on sport shots you cannot hook at spares because there is no free hook on the lane. I bowled a pba experience league during the summer They do use different oils on the regionals and it is laid out different as well. Just because the pba website tells you that you can attack from all angles that means nothing. Depending on lane surface and oil used means everything. Also I have never seen the shark pattern swung out to the first arrow. Maybe pipe it straight up five toward the pocket. The shark 98% of the time has to be played deep inside. Again not trying to bash anyone or trying too toot my own horn I am just saying If you want to get great you will need to learn how to focus on a target I can tell now you are not it looks like you are just looking to the right and throwing it down there.
Yes, im a good house bowler because Im not having to focus on a particular spot, and these guys for some reason can't understand why I have high scores and stuff like that, which doesnt matter to me cause I know where I've been and know what I have done.
As far as swinging the shark, I wasn't talking about swinging the lane. I'm talking about playing straight up at the first arrow because the illusion says I can't do it. And no I don't look right and swing it, its just a video. I do not bowl the same way in league as I do in videos always because the videos are shot during my practice time and I'm not always playing the lane exactly like they should.
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This kid posts a video of himself bowling and says "dont bash my style" (not exact words) and what does everyone do..........bash his style let him bowl nice vid by the way keep practicing and work on sticking it as the foul line and youll be lethal
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Thanks, I thought I must have left that part out but I didn't in my topic post. I don't think most of the people know how to come on here and say anything nice, maybe it makes them feel bigger because they put people down, I dunno. I do these videos just to kind of show what the ball will do and everyone has to focus on me. I didn't name the video, look at my style, I named it something to do with a bowling ball. I do need practice and I will practice some more on getting a certain spot to hit and probably not do many more vids because people are so ungrateful and doesn't appreciate nothing you try to ever do.
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Link Fixed....This is how you play straight
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=25672321
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looks like you need to take a jog....
oh and yea thats a pretty good shot for your second shot...did u throw the first one in the gutter...hahaha
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Link Fixed....This is how you play straight
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looks like you need to take a jog....
oh and yea thats a pretty good shot for your second shot...did u throw the first one in the gutter...hahaha
lol and that was probably on a THS. BTW what does "I need a Hookhole Fo ma Spida Ball" mean? Not sure what to think on that one?
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Edited on 2/17/2008 0:51 AM