Ball: Brunswick C-(System) 2.5

Layout:

Pin 5” from PAP below fingers
45-degree locator line angle
(Dual-angle:  45 by 5” by 70)
XH on VAL, 2” below PAP, 7/8” by 2” deep

Initial Surface Preparation:

Box finish

Purpose:

To bridge the gap between the Wild Ride/Wild Thing and the “Snake” balls.  More specifically, to get recovery from the friction on conditions where the Wilds are burning up, but where there isn’t quite enough dry for the Rattler and Python to make the turn in back.

Why this ball?

The intent of the CFG 2.5 coverstock that is used on the C-(System) 2.5 is to provide a stronger reaction to friction than what is currently available in the Brunswick line.  When combined with a moderately strong asymmetric core, it seemed to me that the C-(S) could give me the reaction shape that I was seeking.

Observations:

The first time I used the C-(System) 2.5 was at a center with five-year-old Pro Anvilanes, on a pair of lanes that had been used for a qualifying squad for an ABT tournament.  I warmed up with the Rattler, and as long as I didn’t get the ball too wide of target, I had a good look at the pocket.  I then switched to the C-(S), and found my best look from eight-and-four left of where I had started.  From there, the C-(S) was creating some hold for me, while still recovering nicely from the house track.

I’ve used the C-(System) at the same center in a second-shift league.  Typically, I don’t like to use pin-down equipment in this league, for while there is plenty of free hook to the outside, the condition tends to favor a more direct trajectory to the pocket.  The C-(S) has been clean enough through the front part of the lane to allow me to play the lanes in this fashion, though, while still having enough strength in the back part of the lane to give me a good carry angle.

I’ve also used this ball several times at a center with HPL in front and older wood in back, on a fresh condition with fairly high volume in front and clean back ends.  On this condition, the C-(System) was really at home, as I could get my feet left and align myself to the dry boards, and not have to worry about whether the ball would recover.  Even on shots where I missed right, the C-(S) retained well enough to finish strong and carry the corners.

Conclusions:

Usually, when I have a ball that is strong off of friction, it doesn’t do so well at riding an oil line, and vice versa.  The C-(System) 2.5 gives me the best of both worlds, and in addition, it has that strong look through the pin deck that the Wilds and the Python have.  In addition, this ball seems to get better and better as I go deeper on the lane  I’ve yet to encounter an inside limitation with the C-(S).

The C-(S) doesn’t seem to break the lane down quite as quickly as balls such as the Radical Inferno and Wild Ride have for me, and the C-(S) doesn’t read transition quite as abruptly.

While I had originally viewed the C-(System) 2.5 as a ball to take me from the Wilds to the Snakes, I’m finding that, on conditions with enough friction to allow me to give away the pocket, I can stay with the C-(S) and keep following the transition deeper inside.

NOTE:  The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.
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Ray Salas
Brunswick Amateur Staff
http://www.brunswickbowling.com

Ok I finally got to throw this enough to post a review on what I think. Drilled this gem with 55x5 1/2x35. I wanted to see a lttle more midlane than I had with my Wild Thing. I got this with out a problem. My initial thought of this ball being a bit weaker was wrong. When I put this ball at the same Sruface as my Wild Thing it was a tad stronger. The downlane motion was similar. I also compared this to a Siege drilled 65x5x25. These two were almost identical on a house shot. Had I been bowling on mre oil the CS would have been a bit stronger but not much.
I found the CS to be a great ball with great carry. I was trying various angles thorugh the front part of the lane and all of them recovered nicely and went through the pins even better. I have found a great little combo with another Siege drilled a little smoother then going to the CS and then to the WT as the Wild does have a little more off the spot as long as I get the surface right. Out of box surface on the CS and WT shows the WT with a tad more down lane. I prefer my WT at 2000.

This will be agreat ball for people needing a benchmark ball.
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Adam Baer
BRUNSWICK ADVISORY STAFF
VISE REGIONAL STAFF
The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation

Layout:
60 by 5.25” by 50
no hole
OOB surface

Bowler stats:
325 rpm
18.5mph

Conditions:
39’ THS
PBA Scorpion (both on Pro Anvil)

I used a similar layout to what was on my Siege because I was looking for this ball to complement the Siege when it started to have trouble cornering at the end of the pattern.

Let me say this up front, I have never, and I mean NEVER, seen a ball that drives through the pins like this ball does. It was on the 30th board on several occasions as it left the pin deck after a flush hit. Nothing I’ve ever thrown or anything that I’ve seen other people throw hit like this ball does. Period.

I knew this ball would be too much on my THS but I had to test it out on it anyway just for fun. On fresh I laid the ball down on 25 and sent it out to around 6 at the breakpoint. The midlane was very strong, as was the recovery. As long as the ball was between 10 and 3 at the breakpoint, it got back to the pocket. However, between the characteristics of my center and the THS we put out, outside angles always score better compared to playing deeper, so I had an even better look amping up my speed and playing 15 (laydown) to 7(breakpoint). But it still wanted more oil…

On the scorpion, the ball was more at home due to the increased length and units of the pattern. I started out using my Siege with a very similar drill with a laydown of 14 out to 10. When I threw the C-S in practice, I was 2 boards further inside due to more response at the end of the pattern. During transition, my Siege saw a little carrydown and started to deflect through the pins. I switched to my C-S and stayed with the same line in practice that I had found. I couldn’t tell the carrydown was even there!

If you are looking for a ball for longer patterns and higher volumes that isn’t sensitive to carrydown, then the C-System is for you. In talking with Chris Loschetter last week, he said that its ability to handle the carrydown seen on tour is why it is in the bags of so many of the free agents (including him). If this ball isn’t in your bag, you’re missing out on a great product.

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Brunswick Advisory Staff

Jared Wolf
Jonesboro, AR
www.bowlingchat.net

The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.

Placed the pin over my ring finger, MB at 45 deg.  This put the pin at 5 inches from my PAP.  I really wasn't sure what to expect from this one, tried it at out of the box surface to start.  I tried it at a fairly long house pattern.   I was very, very impressed.  It's kind of hard to equate this ball motion to anything else out there right now.  Through the heads, it really reminded me of the Absolute Inferno - one of the best Big B balls of all time. Super, super clean in the front.  The break point was very, very sharp.  But, what I typically see is that when balls now days take a turn that hard, they kind of straighten out.  This thing just keeps moving through the pin deck.

I brought it down to 2000 abralon to tame the brake point down a little.  I really love it at this surface. Just as clean in the front and a little more tame on the back.  The boys over at Big B have really hit a few home runs lately.  Keep them coming!

New to Revaluations so be patient:

(my specs are in my profile)
Drilled this ball 5"x10degreesx5" which placed the pin below my ring finger.

I was looking for a ball that read the midlanes and still had something on the back end. My release mistakes are always to stay behind the ball and loose axis rotation which ultimately produces plaque 10's. So finding a ball that will let me get away with even some of these would be a benifit.

What I recieved was this and more. When I release this ball correctly the ball goes through the pins like nothing else I have thrown... it produce more entry angle and my ball actually hits the 8 pin sometimes. Thats a far cry from a strike where the ball goes staright through the pin deck entering on 17.5 and off the tail plank at 17.5. Sure I leave some 9's (LOL) but they are easier than 10's and alot more fun.

As for the issue with my relases, this ball somehow does not deflect as much in the pocket despite the ball rolling end over end into the pins. Some of the plaque 10's are gone. I think there might be something to this Salvino technology.

I'm an average bowler with a 157 avg, I went to the Pro shop in search of a new ball and the Pro shop owner recommend this ball for me. He drill it to have a strong break on the back end. I bought the ball on 11/11/2009 and I bowl with it the next night (11/12/2009) in my league. I bowl a 706 scratch series, with my games being 225, 237, and 244. I love this ball it great now. I never had a ball that do the things it does. I say BUY it.
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Always Bowling,
 Boney

Pin: Under middle finger
CG: 1 in from centerline
MB: 1 1/2 in to right of thumb.
X-hole: On VAL 3 1/2 ins down from PAP

Cover: Out of Box.

This ball has a motion that has been missing from brunswick's line. The cover/core allows the ball to push 1 to 2 feet futher than what you would expcet and the ball does not lose recovery at all. The recovery from the cover down the lane and to the right is a great aspect of this ball. Even with such a strong core, stronger layouts will not create a problem.

Strength: Cover, Cover and Cover.

Weakness: If I find one I will let everyone know.

I have used this ball on the PBA's Scorpion pattern on a surface that was harder than pro anvil. I was able to use the ball inside and out side. For me Scorpion can some times be difficult for my style when it comes to down the lane and to the right. This ball allows me a few extra boards to the right and angle error.

On the Kegal short pattern the Boardwalk I have room to the inside, that extra push from the cover/core allows me 4 to 5 board area on this pattern.