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C-System Maxxed Out
« on: June 26, 2012, 11:52:32 AM »
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- Core Type : I-Block
- Coverstock: CFT maxxed-out Solid
- Color: Cobalt and Teal Solid All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
- Factory Finish: 4000 grit Siaair Micro Pad finish
- A few tiny pit holes in the cover stock of the ball are normal
- RG max: 2.523
- RG min: 2.468
- RG diff: 0.055
- Hook Potential: 170 (Scale 10-200)
- Length: 110 (Scale 25-235)
- Typical Breakpoint Shape: 85 Smooth Arch (Scale Smooth Arc 10-Angular 100)
- Recommended Lane Condition: medium-oily to oily
- Description: The cobalt/teal solid C-System maxxed-out combines the new Ultra Low RG Dual Flip I-Block symmetrical core with our new C-System maxxed-out coverstock to create a strong and controllable hook motion that serves as the perfect complement to the C-System versa-max. The CFT maxxed-out coverstock maximizes the friction additives to strengthen the mid-lane grip and backend reaction for maximum control.
The new Ultra Low Dual Flip I – Block symmetrical core incorporates a top and bottom flip block over a centered mass. The centered mass creates stability while the dual flip blocks keep the core revving to the backend all the way through the pins for improved pin action.
With its 4000 grit Siaair Micro Pad finish, the C•(System) maxxed-out skids easily through the front, saving axis rotation for the backend with a strong continuous breakpoint. The C•(System) maxxed-out is best used on fresh and wet/dry lane conditions where control is needed on medium-oily to oily lane patterns.
The C•(System) maxxed-out can be drilled using the standard drilling techniques developed for symmetric bowling balls.
At Brunswick, the unique core shape of each individual ball is used for weights from 14 to 16 pounds. This approach to lightweight ball engineering provides bowlers with consistent ball reaction characteristics across this weight range. At 12 and 13 pounds, Brunswick uses a generic core shape with a RGdifferential that is close enough to the 14 to 16 pound shape so the same drilling instructions can be used.

 

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Re: Brunswick C-System Maxxed Out
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2012, 06:43:37 PM »
LANE CONDITION

Length:  41 ft

Volume:

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): Scorpion


COMMENTS

Likes:  Strong heavy rolling ball where there is a bit of back end or a defined track area.  Great reaction on a 39 foot slightly crowned pattern. 

Dislikes:  Ball labored on the fresh longer scorpion pattern as the oil transitioned down the lane. 


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« Last Edit: July 02, 2012, 02:14:11 AM by avabob »

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Re: Brunswick C-System Maxxed Out
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2012, 06:33:10 PM »
Ball Reviewing              Layout Used
C-System MaXXed Out      40 x 4 ¾ x 60
                                             
Ball Surface              Oil Pattern Reviewed On
Factory Finish      Fresh THS
                                             
The ball read the lane perfect.  I got easy push through the heads without seeing it skate through the blend.  It revved up in all the right places and regardless of how deep I moved the ball just continued to read the blend of a house shot and allowed me to get to the pocket.  The carry was great.  I saw very little deflection and even poorly executed shots seemed to fix themselves as the ball flared up.


I compared this against a C-system Versa Max drilled with the same layout and finished at 2000.  The MaXXed Out was less prone to shooting though the pattern longer and was a 6-3 move more aggressive.  The MaXXed out also allowed me to move away from the dry and get deeper while still recovering while the Versa still needed the friction.


                              
This ball is going to be a new benchmark ball.  The Versa-Max was in my opinion the best ball I had thrown in years and this may quickly take that’s place.  It is extremely versatile, controllable, yet strong.  I have thrown it on the THS reviewed above and during a sweeper tournament in the Team USA Pattern Los Angeles and this ball read both patterns perfectly.  The only weakness to this ball will be too much friction.

I rate this ball a 10 out 10!

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Re: Brunswick C-System Maxxed Out
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2012, 01:36:37 PM »
BALL SPECS

Pin Length:3.5

Starting Top Weight:
3
Ball Weight:

15 lbs
DRILL PATTERN
50X5 1/4X30
Pin to PAP:5 1/4

CG to PAP:

X Hole (if there is one):None


BOWLER STYLE

Rev Rate:300

Ball Speed:17.5 off hand

PAP/Track:
4 1/2

SURFACE PREP

Grit:
Box
Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded):

Box
LANE CONDITION

Length:41

Volume:
18.5
Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):
THS Broken Down

BALL REACTION

Length:

Back End:

Overall Hook:

Midlane Read:

Breakpoint Shape:
Strong Arc

COMMENTS

Likes:
This ball for me will be a bench mark ball.  It is more traditional Brunswick.  I know alot of people thought the Versa was benchmark material, but for me it had a little too much backend to be a bench mark ball, which is a good thing, as it ranks up there as one of my all time favorite balls.  The Maxed Out for me is 5 and 3 stronger than the Versa but on the broken down house shot, I had to force it through the front more, and if I didn't get enough tilt, it was a little used up at the break point.  On fresher backends with longer patterns and some head oil, this ball should be spot on. 
Dislikes:
Doesn't seem to like burnt heads with moderate carry down, but it isn't for that, so this is really not a dislike. 

Mike Freundel
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Brunswick C-System Maxxed Out
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2012, 05:20:16 PM »
BALL SPECS

Pin Length: 4

Ball Weight: 15


DRILL PATTERN

Dual Angle Layout: 65 x 5 x 45

BOWLER STYLE

Rev Rate: 400

Ball Speed: 18.5 off the hand

PAP/Track: 4 5/8 right 7/8 up

Tilt: 13*


SURFACE PREP

Grit: 4000

Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): Matte


LANE CONDITION

Length: 40

Volume: 20

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): ths


BALL REACTION

Length: Benchmark Length....not too early or too late

Back End: strong continuous

Overall Hook: Medium High

Midlane Read: strong

Breakpoint Shape: strong


COMMENTS

Likes: I see this ball as a great compliment to the Versa Max...When my versa is going a couple feet too long this is the perfect solution without having to change angles/targets drastically. This ball is earlier than the versa but still has that great continuation that we all have known to love. If you have a versa in your bag you need its bigger brother! You'll love this compliment to one of the greatest brunswick releases ever!

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Re: Brunswick C-System Maxxed Out
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2012, 11:49:27 PM »
BALL SPECS

Pin Length:3-4

Starting Top Weight: 2.8

Ball Weight:14lb 4oz


DRILL PATTERN

Dual Angle: 55 deg x 4-1/4" x 55 deg


X Hole (if there is one): down val 3-1/4" from pap


BOWLER STYLE

Rev Rate:300

Ball Speed:16+ at monitor

PAP/Track:4-5/8" > x 13/16" ^ 11-1/4" across track


SURFACE PREP

Grit:3000

Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded):Matte


LANE CONDITION

Length:40'

Volume:Medium

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):Modified Stone St.


BALL REACTION

Length:  Easy Length

Back End: Strong Arc

Overall Hook: Benchmark Medium High

Midlane Read: Strong

Breakpoint Shape: Angular


COMMENTS

Likes: Very fun to roll this ball!! I like the easy it gets down the lane, the strong read of the mid-lane and the big turn at the breakpoint! Versa-Max doesn't hook enough for ya? Here's the answer, Maxxed Out!! My favorite layout 55 deg x 4-1/4" x 55 deg with weight hole down val! The Maxxed Out is very easy to get down the lane and when you don't think it's going to hook, look out for the left turn!!! This ball is a lot of fun to open the lane up with!!!

Dislikes: None so far and when this ball is to strong, it's time for the Versa-Max!!!


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Re: Brunswick C-System Maxxed Out
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2012, 09:34:54 PM »
strong cover required me to make a larger move with my feet than I expected but I could still send the ball out to the same breakpoint. On heavier volumes up front, this ball is golden and possibly the best in the biz. You just can’t expect this ball to get through a desert in the heads.

Final thoughts:
Maxxed-out is truly the big brother of the Versa. Both are terrific choices for a benchmark ball. The Versa more for med-dry to med patterns and the Maxxed-out for med to med-heavy patterns for most. The Versa might truly be the best bowling ball I have ever  thrown and the Maxxed-out will be giving it a run for its money! I actually have a third Maxxed-out planned to have a 160* by 1.5” by 80* to blend out the pattern even further and allow myself to square up on medium patterns even more so than what Ball #2 allows me to do. High speed and/or low rev players will find the Maxxed-out to be the go to ball. If you find the Versa to be a favorite in your bag but are looking for more overall motion, then you’re crazy to not pick up this ball. The Maxxed-out gives me the same reaction shape as the Versa, just about 5 boards more overall hook. With the same layout, a Versa and a Maxxed-out could very well be the best 2 ball combo in the game today. Also, it would not surprise me in the least if the Maxxed-out becomes the ball of the year (the Nexxxus f(P+S) will give it a run as well). Get one today and you’ll be thanking yourself later, trust me on that one!

If you have any questions regarding the Maxxed-out or any other Brunswick or DV8 equipment, don’t hesitate to send me a message. Thanks for reading. Good luck and good bowling!

The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.
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Re: Brunswick C-System Maxxed Out
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2012, 12:22:12 AM »
BALL SPECS


Pin Length: 2


Starting Top Weight: 3.2 oz


Ball Weight: 15 lbs 6 oz



DRILL PATTERN


Ball: 65 x 4 1/2 x 75


X Hole (if there is one): No Hole


BOWLER STYLE


Rev Rate: 375 rpms


Ball Speed:17.5 mph



PAP/Track: 4 3/4 over 3/4 up



SURFACE PREP


Grit: Box


Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): Sanded 4000 Siaair



LANE CONDITION


Lengths of patterns: 41



Volumes:  higher side of moderate



Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): house




BALL REACTION


Length: Clean through the front reads the middle



Back End: Strong continuous move down lane


Overall Hook: Moderate....sneaky strong


Midlane Read: strong


Breakpoint Shape: continuous arc



COMMENTS


Likes: The versatility and overall usability....its my favorite ball....my 90 percent ball



Dislikes: What's not to like!





The C System Maxxed out arrives as a stronger earlier version of the Versamax.  Those that had trouble getting the Versamax to read soon enough on the fresher lane conditions will find that this ball will fill that gap more than capably.  The Maxxed out has a sure read of the midlane and then makes a strong move toward the pocked with great continuation through the pins.  This ball is cleaner and stronger on the backend than the Revolver series balls that preceded it.  It is also several boards stronger than the C System Versamax making the two the most formidable one two punch in bowling.  It does a great job of handling slicker conditions where the Versamax wouldn't read without significant surface adjustments.  This ball is very responsive to changes in release and speed.  The newest C System release will continue to get stronger as you have to chase the pattern left during the breakdown period.   Where other midlane reading symmetrical stop, this one turns into the Energizer bunny and just keeps coming!  This is my new favorite ball as I have found that I can play almost anywhere on the house shot with it as long as I match speed and rotation to what I am trying to do.  I can also see this ball working very well on sport type conditions as It displays that benchmark type reaction that typically makes flatter patterns more playable.  Confidence comes with consistency and I am very confident in this ball.  The C System Versamax is the type of reaction you don't want to be caught without.  It has great carry, controlled roll, and versatility most other balls can't live up to.  If you are looking for a great everyday benchmark type ball for moderate conditions the C System Maxxed out is the ball your looking for.

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Re: Brunswick C-System Maxxed Out
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2012, 02:18:07 PM »
LANE CONDITION

Length: 40 feet

Volume: 20ml

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS - Kegel Wall Street


COMMENTS

Likes:  The perfect compliment to the Versa Max. It reads earlier and hooks more overall.  Great for opening up your angles. Best used on fresh and when I want to swing the lane more.  Great through the pins.  Nice color, too.

Dislikes:  Have not found one yet.


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Re: Brunswick C-System Maxxed Out
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2012, 08:54:24 PM »
The all new C System Maxxed Out is the big brother to great Versa Max. This ball has been added to compliment the Versa Max when there is more oil and you need more hook. The Maxxed Out is at least 4 and 2  stronger than the Versa Max.

I drilled 2 of these. First one is drilled 65x5 3/4x40. I wanted this ball to use more on house shots in league.  I haven't bowled on many house shots since drilling this ball but have still thrown it some. This layout will allow the ball to clear the fronts easily and have a sharper motion down lane. This ball does not flip but does have a strong motion down lane.

The second one is drilled RICO. I have used this layout on alot of balls in the past but haven't used it recently. So I thought I would use it on this and see what is gave me. This layout still clears the fronts without effort and comes around the corner nicely. I have used this going pretty straight and hooking most of the lane. A simple tweak in my release would allow me to hook it even more but there are better options as the lanes breakdown.

The new Maxxed Out is very similar to Versa just stronger. Gives you the same ease through the fronts and a very predictable move down lane. If you like the Versa and need a some more hook drill a Maxxed Out. You will NOT be disappointed!!
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Re: Brunswick C-System Maxxed Out
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2012, 10:18:08 PM »
LANE CONDITION

Patterns:
41 ft Kegel Main Street (THS)
39 ft 2012 USBC Open Pattern (Sport)


COMMENTS

Overall: 8.5/10
If you bowl on heavy or medium-heavy conditions that are on the tighter side, this symmetric cored Brunswick C-System maxxed-out will be a great option to offer a consistent ball reaction. It will read the midlane well and store plenty of energy for the backends. You’ll rarely blow through the breakpoint with this ball. If you have less hand than our rev dominant tester, you will likely be able to take advantage of the strengths of this ball on medium conditions as well. Very good offering at a very reasonable price point from Brunswick.

For complete review, video, and Digitrax analysis check it out at:

http://tamerbowling.com/index.php/brunswick-c-system-maxxed-out-ball-digitrax/


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Re: Brunswick C-System Maxxed Out
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2012, 06:49:44 AM »
Brunswick Bowling Ball Review

My Information

A. Name: Richard D. VanScoyk      
B. Average:  227 (House Shot)
C. Honor Scores:  15 – 300’s, 9 – 800’s
D. Ball Speed:  17.5 – 18.0 mph
E. Revolution Rate:  325 rpm

General Ball Information

F. Name of Bowling Ball: Nexxxus F(P+S)
G. Weight of Bowling Ball: 15 lbs
H. Layout of bowling Ball: pin up
I. How many games do I have on this ball? About 40
J. Favorite Surface on this bowling ball: out of box
K. Description of ball motion: smooth and lengthy with skid and a nice flip action down lane
L. Overall Hook (1 none – 10 lots): 8.5
M. Versatility (1worst - 10best):  8
N. Overall Rate (1worst - 10best): 8.5
O. Why do I recommend buying this bowling ball? This ball seems to be, with 40 games on it, the best ball I have currently.   I like the skid-flip action, which means to me that the ball saves all of its power for the pins and I receive lots of strikes.
Special Information
P. How does this ball compare to another ball?  I feel that the ball is a 3-2 move left on a house shot compared to the Nexxus F(P+R).
Q. What are the strengths of this bowling ball? Skid-flip action, does not hook early
R. What are the weaknesses of this bowling ball? Too strong for drier lanes, I leave many corner pins during transition because of my entry angle.
S. Oil Patterns used on: House Shot
T. How does this ball react on house patterns? Long skid motion, then strong hook on backend
U. How does this ball react during transition? I lose carry during transition and I must make correct moves to knock down all ten pins.
V. When do I find myself using this ball? Always, this is my new favorite ball. Also, I use it on medium to heavy oiled house shots.
W. Additional Comments:  This ball is great for me, and I believe it will be great for you as well. I have one 300 with this ball already. Nice job Brunswick, this ball is great.

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Re: Brunswick C-System Maxxed Out
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2012, 02:48:48 PM »
BALL SPECS

Pin Length:3"

Starting Top Weight: 2.05 oz.

Ball Weight:15lb.


DRILL PATTERN

Dual Angle Layout: 35 X 3 3/8" X 45

X Hole (if there is one): None


BOWLER STYLE

Rev Rate:

Ball Speed: 18 MPH

PAP/Track: 3 7/8" over 1 1/4" up


SURFACE PREP

Grit:4000 (Box finish)

Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): Matte


LANE CONDITION

Length: 41'

Volume:19.3 ML

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): Kegel Main St.


BALL REACTION

Length: 4 (1-10 scale)

Back End: 6

Overall Hook:8

Midlane Read:Strong

Breakpoint Shape:Very strong arc


COMMENTS

Likes: Smooth and Strong throughout the lane. what I can tell you about the Maxxed Out and Sport conditions is that as long as you have a pattern with a fairly decent amount of oil up front you will be very happy with the reaction downlane. The low RG/ Fast revving core gives the ball great control and a smooth transition which matches up well on most sport conditions. Lower volume patterns may force you to add some polish or put it away.

Dislikes: None on this pattern


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Re: C-System Maxxed Out
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2012, 11:12:34 PM »
BALL SPECS

Pin Length:  1-2
Starting Top Weight:  3.0 top
Ball Weight:  15

DRILL PATTERN
Pin to PAP:4 ½ (pin down)
X Hole: None

BOWLER STYLE
Tweener
PAP/Track:  5 1/8, 1 up

SURFACE PREP
Grit:Box finish
Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): 

LANE CONDITION
Length:   House and Tournament conditions
Volume:  N/A     
Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):   THS and Pro Anvil
 
BALL REACTION
Length:   Clean through heads, good Length
Back End:  Controlled 
Overall Hook:  Medium 
Mid lane Read:  Very clean
Breakpoint Shape: hard smooth arch
 
COMMENTS

Likes:
The C-System Maxxed Out is as advertised. I have two of them to complement the two C-System Versa Max's I have. Both balls are in box condition with no initial cover alterations. The new Maxxed Out is a great complement to the C-System Versa Max. It is about 4-5 boards stronger with the same general characteristics of the Versa. Very clean through the front. The way the ball reads the lane makes it an ideal benchmark ball. I have found that the Versa Max and now the Maxxed Out are the first balls out of my bag and I use them quite a bit. Brunswick has really hit the mark in the direction they have taken the C-System line with these two balls. Once in a while a ball comes along where you say this needs to be in everyone's bag. This is the case with these two.   
On a fresh house shot you can easily play the track area and ride the shim. If there is friction the Maxxed Out will read it and make a strong but, controlled arc to the pocket. I find I prefer the pin down drilling for fresh house shot conditions. The layout and the way the ball reads minimizes over/under. I can easily switch to the pin up layout if I need more length or to create an increase in angle on the back end.
 
Dislikes: 
The only observation I can make with the Maxxed Out is to stay on top of the surface prep. I found the coverstock tends to shine up quickly. Hit it quickly with a 2K pad and your back in business.

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Re: C-System Maxxed Out
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2012, 02:31:50 PM »
LANE CONDITION

Length: 40-42'

Volume: High Volume (exact unknown)

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS


COMMENTS

Layout: 4" x 4.5" x 45 degrees

The Maxxed Out was exactly what I wanted out of the next Brunswick release.  Early roll with continuation in the back, highly predictable and covers plenty of boards.  This ball lets me get deeper into the oil on THS and gives me that smooth motion on wet-dry conditions that I was looking for.  If not for this ball at the Proprietors Cup, I would have been lost.  I felt like I had a ball reaction up there with those that were really scoring well, but I left a number of swisher corner pins on hits that normally carry on Twister pins.

I love this ball and it’s a perfect complement to the Versa Max, it should be anywhere from 2-4 boards more than a Versa.