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Eliminator
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
Ball NPS Score: 100.00
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Specifications are as follows:


Coverstock: Low-Load Proactive /Particle

Color: Royal Blue

Hardness: 77-79

Factory Finish: Cerium Oxide Trizact

Core Dynamics:

   

       
  • RG Max: 2.546

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  • RG Min: 2.493

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  • RG Diff: 0.043

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  • RG Avg: 3.5

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Performance:

   

       
  • Hook Potential: 125

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  • Length: 80

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  • BreakPoint Shape: 60

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Available Weights: 12-16 Pounds



View the official Spec sheet including Drill Instructions

 

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Re: Eliminator
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2002, 10:47:22 PM »
Hello eveyone.  I got my eliminator about 2 weeks ago and I have been very impressed.  I am a fairly high rev player and I was looking for something that wouldn't skid snap like everything else.  that's what I got.  This ball has the smoothest arc, very predictable.  I bowled with it on the Cream of the Crop shot and I was able to keep my line most of the day while everyone else kept getting deeper.  I have it drilled with  the cg under the ring finger about 2 inches and the pin is kicked out to the right about 2 inches.  Since the low particle eliminates the hook set, the ball has plenty of energy to crush the hole.  Great ball Brunswick.
Mike Larsen

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Re: Eliminator
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2002, 10:53:28 AM »
Brunswick took the popular Fuze core and tweaked the rg down to a low 2.49, then matched up a low load particle cover with a cerium oxide finish on the Eliminator.  The result for me is a highly polished Detonator. The Eliminator rolls heavy through the midlane with a very angular move much like the Detonator but with more length.  My guess is this may be too much of a niche ball for many people, but that doesn't mean it isn't a good one.  There are definitely some places you can use the Eliminator where you can't use the Detonator, but there is a lot of overlap.  For people who like to square up a little the Eliminator lets you point into the oil with excellent hitting power.  For people who like the Detonator, but just can't quite find enough oil to use it the Eliminator would be a great choice.  I still wouldn't call it a dry or even a medium oil ball, but it will give some length where the Detonator just burns too early.  On the downside it will still burn early, like the Detonator if you send too wide into the dry without plenty of revs.  

All in all a real good ball, but if you own a Detonator it will leave you wondering if you couldn't have gotten a similar reaction with a cerium oxide finish on it.

Dwight Albrecht

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Re: Eliminator
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2002, 11:06:29 PM »
Brunswick Fuze Eliminator Review:

Brunswick’s new Particle ball is the missing void that has been present in Brunswick’s line and other ball manufactures lines of balls for some time. This light load blue particle/proactive ball is sanded from the factory at a Cerium-Oxide Pad and then lightly polished. The Weight Block is the same shape as the Igniter core with the densities changed to make the ball roll sooner or Rev quicker. Proper ball reaction is ALWAYS the marriage of the cover stock and the weight block and this Brunswick Ball does this extraordinary well. I drilled my Eliminator with the pin 3 3/8 X P.A.P. and Put the CG to the right of my grip. Weight hole on the Vertical Axis line.

The lane condition I tested the Ball on was at two different centers. The 1st center is wood lanes with medium oil and a touch of carry down. Here the Eliminator worked perfectly and gave me the best reaction from any other ball I tried. Any of my other equipment which included the Freak, which hooked early with no backend, the Storm Trauma Recovery, which skidded forever with no back end to My Brunswick Purple Monster polished which was clean through the front and had moderate backend, couldn’t give me the proper reaction that the Eliminator did. The Eliminator was much cleaner through the fronts and much harder of a turn on the back ends. This lane condition was very difficult and with this ball it allowed me to have some miss area. On the HPL Panel lane center the ball did not over react when it hit the dry and was very clean and smooth when it hit the oil, with out the over skid of most reactives.

Most Bowlers will find this ball very adaptable to most conditions with feet and lane adjustments. This is one of those everybody balls and would be a great 1st ball out of the bag to test the waters so to speak. Stroker’s to Cranker’s will like this ball with proper pin and CG layouts. In closing the Eliminator is a cross over particle that kind of reacts like a Reactive but with the predictability of a particle ball with strong backend makes this ball definitely one of it’s own class.

Thanks for reading my review.
Dwight

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Re: Eliminator
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2002, 09:26:55 PM »
specs
4 pin
2.7 oz top
high revs with 16-17 mph ball speed

1st brunswick ball ive thrown in several years, but am very happy with ball.
drilled ball with my favorite drill, draw a line between the pin and the cg and that is my grip line. pin is above my fingers a little more than 5 inch. from my pap. on a typical house shot with synthetic lanes the ball was fantastic. cleared the heads great and made strong move to pocket, didnt really snap but rolled under controll. i shot 249-275-208 for 732, not bad for first set. last game needed to move in deeper to carry, ball needs oil. started off night standing on 30 and hitting about 20 at arrows, didnt have to move untill last game. would highly recommend this ball. very readable ball.
~<:-0======"IN CG WE TRUST" i chant as i pray to the static weight God...======

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Re: Eliminator
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2002, 06:51:00 PM »
This ball is a monster.  We drilled this ball up with the pin in the middle and below my fingers and the CG very close to my thumb.  I would say it is about a 5X5 with the pin below the fingers.  I have found this ball to outhook anything I have ever thrown.  That is both a good and a bad thing.  It is the most predictible hook I have ever seen.  I have zero problems with an over/under reaction with this ball.  It hits like a Mac truck.  I shined it up just a tad after using it for 2 weeks and I like it even more.  I leave far fewer 10 pins than usual when using this ball.  The only problem is that it needs some oil.  But when there is oil on the lane this is the first ball that I will be using.  A great compliment to the Igniter for Medium Lanes and a ScreamR for Dry.  I think this is going to be a great tournament ball because it is so incredibly predictible.   I have already won more than what I paid for back using the ball in 2 1/2 weeks so it can't be all that bad  

Overall Review:  Great Ball For Oilier House Conditions and A SUPERB Tournament Ball

8.5 Out Of 10

I don't care what any of you say Brunswick is putting out just as good if not better equipment than any other ball company out there.  Don't be scared to try Brunswick out I am sure you will love them.

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Re: Eliminator
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2002, 08:34:29 PM »
   This ball has a pin out 2-3. I drilled it with a high track rev leverage layout with a weight hole.   First off this is an absolutely amazing bowling ball. This is my new favorite ball. The cover/core combination is perfect. The Igniter core is modified by raising the density which makes the ball more center heavy which in turn makes the ball rev up early and have and earlier roll with more control. The cover is a low load Proactive particle coverstock which makes the act more like an aggressive reactive that is less susceptible to over/under reactions. The combination of the two make the ball rev up early, have great midlane recovery and a strong backend. With the factory cerium oxide Trizact  finish this ball can handle almost any condition except for heavy oil. The ball has great hit and carry. I shot my highest series with this ball. When I can’t find a strike line on a condition I go to this ball. There is virtually no line you can’t play with this ball. You can swing it, play straight up, and point all with great results. I recommend this ball to anybody.

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Re: Eliminator
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2003, 10:21:58 PM »
Likes: Powerful, Crushing Pin Action, Predictability, Consistency the list goes on and on....
Dislikes: I haven't found one yet....probably dry heads

16 pounds
Top Weight: 3.5
Pin out: 3-4 inches
Factory Surface


The first ball out of my bag, and this will probably be the only ball you need to have in your hand. I have mine drilled up 4 1/2 strong with the pin next to my ring finger and the cg below my centerline. This puts the weight hole below my axis, left it too 3/4oz positive. I bowled a tournament this past weekend and this was the only ball I threw. I only had to move a total of five boards the entire day. The Eliminator floats though the heads with ease, considering it's a particle ball. It read the midlanes, but didn't skid too far or hook up too soon. The times that I did throw it left of my target it rolled up strong and left nothing in its path. Then the times that I tugged it inside of my mark, it retained its engery and stood up just in time to crush the hole. That is another thing that is just amazing about this ball, the pin action. The Eliminator destroys anything and everything on the pin deck. Weather you hit light of heavy on the head pin, everything is eliminated. It is not the strongest ball in my bag, the Swamp Monster still holds that title, but the Eliminator is and will be for awhile the first ball out of my bag. Very controlable and predictable and plenty strong enough for typical house and tournament conditions. I am looking forward to drilling up another one soon. Thank you Brunswick for producing excellent equpiment again..... Good Luck and Bowling!




 

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Re: Eliminator
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2003, 12:21:45 AM »
Drilling - 4.5 by 3.5
Surface left box condition

I must say that I am pleasantly pleased at the roll I'm getting out of this ball.  It doesn't clear the heads quite like I thought it might (hey it's Brunswick, what did I expect?), but nevertheless it is still a definite go to ball in the presence of long oil with clean backends.  It reads the midlane and the breakpoint about as well as any ball I have seen.  It's move at the breakpoint is slightly more angular than I envisioned, but controllable.

This is a definite ball to consider for anyone who is bowling on a longer house pattern with some descent backend.  It won't cut through carrydown but it will sure read the lane in a hurry once it gets off the oil.

Overall a very nice selection by Brunswick.

Randy Russell
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Lawrenceville, GA
Lane 1 = David Koresh of bowling

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Re: Eliminator
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2003, 04:58:32 PM »


This ball was drilled with a pin up / hole down configuration.  Surface was box.

This ball was punched up for the 1st round of match play at the US amateur out at the stadium in Reno.  The pattern was a sport condition to 44 feet.  Immediately upon throwing the ball, it gave recovery that other similar equipment did not.  On the fresh condition, the ball grabbed enough in the midlane to provide a predictible roll.  Once a track was broken in several games in, the reaction got better.  On the broken down track, the ball would check up early, but still retain enough energy to toss the pins around.  I shot 300 the 7th game of the event with this ball.  This ball reads the mids extremely well and gets through the heads with ease, especially for a proactive.

On a long house pattern, the ball also performs well.  For a long pattern, this ball is an extremely good investment, sport or no sport.

Ed Smaglik
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Re: Eliminator
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2003, 08:48:52 AM »
Test Ball: 15 lb., pin 3-1/4", drilled with pin 4-1/2" from PAP; CG kicked right, approx. 1/2 oz. positive side weight, no X-hole.
BOWLER: RH, 'rotationally-challenged', medium ball-speed.


I have awaited this low-load particle entry for a long time, since most high-load particle balls tend to vacuum "house" conditions into unplayability within a game or so, frying all the conditioner off the heads and making midlanes spotty and unpredictable. The moderate-flaring layout selected was intended as either a beginning ball for fresh 'house' conditions, or a 'go-to' ball for Sport or longer house patterns. It succeeded, but with cautions.

On a standard house oil pattern, this ball, despite the low particle load, is still a VERY STRONG ball. A 'low-load' particle coverstock this may be, but the particles they did put in there, spent a month doing pushups before being blended into this cover. The ball makes a VERY decisive move down-lane, but doesn't overreact. However, on the shorter house patterns, it seems to be 'too much gun': the breakpoint tends to be VERY early on these conditions. It needs head oil, and seems to require a fair amount of midlane oil, as well. When it sees dry wood, it MOVES. The upside of this is, on a Sport or longer oil pattern, the ball will play all day and all night. It saves energy and holds down its lane movement to a degree unexpected for a higher-differential ball; it may move early on shorter oil, but it doesn't seem to want to over-react anywhere. The real thing to watch is the break-point; the break itself won't give you any surprises. If the ball breaks too early, either move left into a lot more oil or put it away til later; if it gets down-lane, smile and prepare to enjoy yourself.

And the HIT!! Lord, does this ball hit and carry. As noted, it seems to save up energy and not waste anything on big, sweeping moves on the lane. The reaction is a strong, continuous arc, very controllable. Low-pocket hits are blown away completely, and flush hits have no chance either. High-flush, it's still possible to get into trouble, since the finish is so strong.

OVERALL: 8.5 out of 10, only due to early break on 'house' conditions. On Sport, it's a 9.999.

MCC

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Re: Eliminator
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2003, 09:21:56 AM »
Ok, preface - I started bowling 7 months ago after an 18 year hiatus from a 165 max, so I'm no Mark Roth, but... I'm viciously competitive and the bug has hit. After staggering to a 167 in 5 months with a rotator cuff injury, 9 weeks after surgery I finally felt well enough to get serious. First drill was a Black Hammer 2001. Then I bought an excellent RG Fuel (see review). Still not satisfied with my league medium to heavy conditions, I picked up an Eliminator. I do not believe the pins will ever be the same in my house!

Drilled it to roll mid and snap hard (over right of ring, CG right) this ball is my first 15# (my recovering shoulder demanded a weight reduction, kinda like Pamela Anderson's chest!). I'm a straight up stroker, med revs, and down anywhere from the 5 to the 10, this ball rips to the pocket and doesn't stop until it blows a hole out of the pit wall! it took me a while to figure it out (needs some speed with the drill pattern, even in mid-oil), but from 167,167,167 I went to 136?, 167, 235 (I think I got it now). Watch for an update on this ball from me. A 300 is coming.

Definitely a Brunswick fan. No nonsense, rip the Sh_t out of the pins ball. By the way - I bought this based on the reviews here, sounded like what I needed - THANKS!

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Re: Eliminator
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2003, 03:07:56 PM »
Quick update - 212, 205, 189 and 223, 268, 203. 268 was a ringing 10 and a completely bewildered 5.

The ball likes speed! Again, I've NEVER seen a ball destroy the pins like this one does.

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Re: Eliminator
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2003, 03:11:03 PM »
BTW - and I'm sorry for the triple threat here, but the pin is drilled UNDER and right of ring.

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Re: Eliminator
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2003, 01:03:28 AM »
I really love this ball.  I got it when i went back to 14lbs and what a great ball.  Ball is 14lbs and the ball is drilled with the pin under the finger.  NOt sure where the cg or mass bias is sorry.  I went to Texas Station today and practiced 4 games with it and shot a 191, 190, 162, and a 225 with it all throwing right at 12 board.  These lanes are known for being wet/dry condition.  Oil in the inside and dry on the outside.  I was able to just swing the ball from 12 board out to like 8 or 7 board.  Even if i missed too far right it'd still catch the dry and come back to the pocket.  I tugged it a couple of times and missed my mark severly to the left hitting like board 14 and the Eliminator did not hook nor anything.  Just stayed in a perfect straight line for the pins giving me a strike.  I really love this ball.  Might go get another one and have it drilled a different way.

Thanks Brunswick for this terrific bowling ball

Peter Kramer