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charlest

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Activator coverstock
« on: November 24, 2004, 10:14:20 PM »
From seeing, using and reading the reviews of the pearl Activator and Activator+ coverstock balls by both Brunswick and Lane#1, it seems like they act more like other manufacturer's particle pearl balls, to a major degree. Granted, there are some variations in the behavior of particle pearls, given the particle load, the degree of polish, and the core with which they are matched (symmetric vs asymmetric, low RG vs medium RG, medium), but, in general, I see a tight correlation.

Edited (11/26, 9:30 PM): I did say pearl Activator and Activator+ (only one, the pearl Intense). From some people's comments, I think they thought I meant all Activator balls.
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louie

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Re: Activator coverstock
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2004, 06:50:34 AM »
I don't know about that. I've had a problem with particle pearls over undering for me. I move left and they don't recover. I tighten the line and they go high. I have a Blazing Inferno and that ball is very easy to keep in the pocket. It definately has a slide in the oil quality that most pearl reactives have. Where it is a little different is in how it reads the dry. It moves hard off of the dry, but is more predictable in its motion than most reactives I've tried. It definately rolls like a reactive for me. I think it is just a really great reactive cover.
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charlest

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Re: Activator coverstock
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2004, 08:02:07 AM »
Louie,

The Blazing is probably the exception to the rule for Activator coverstock balls. (You would choose that one! ) I have to say that it appeared to act much more like plain resin than any other Activator to date, PLUS, even Brunswick, via one of their reps, here at ballreviews, admitted there was variability in the actual balls produced, which is very unlike Brunswick.

Your assumption that, based on your experience with the Blazing, that the Acitcator is just like any other resin, must be re-examined in this light. The Activator is anything but like any other resin cover.

Have you tried any other Activator ball?
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Re: Activator coverstock
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2004, 08:10:26 AM »
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From seeing, using and reading the reviews of the pearl Activator and Activator+ coverstock balls by both Brunswick and Lane#1, it seems like they act more like other manufacturer's particle pearl balls, to a major degree. Granted, there are some variations in the behavior of particle pearls, given the particle load, the degree of polish, and the core with which they are matched (symmetric vs asymmetric, low RG vs medium RG, medium), but, in general, I see a tight correlation.

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I would agree with you for the most part.  I have the RG Pure Fuel with polished was very similar to my Inferno.  When I dulled both, it would out hook the inferno b/c of the particle loading.  

With that said, I sold the RG and haven't even used my Shock Zone it quite a while.  I did break out the old HPD a few weekends ago.  

I picked up the Intense recently, it is a very good choice.

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Re: Activator coverstock
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2004, 09:47:06 AM »
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The primus behind the Activator cover is-shiny it reacts like reactive and dull its similiar to particle. The best of both worlds. It is very versatile and that's why you see so many as well as the other Infernos.

I agree with BrunsRicH. A friend that I bowl with uses only two balls to cover most conditions. One is a shiny Inferno and the other a dulled Inferno and they do the job for him.

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Re: Activator coverstock
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2004, 10:02:02 AM »
The only activator covered ball I've thrown is the Blazing. I can't roll low rg balls as they all hook early and unpredictably for me.
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charlest

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Re: Activator coverstock
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2004, 12:28:58 PM »
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The only activator covered ball I've thrown is the Blazing. I can't roll low rg balls as they all hook early and unpredictably for me.
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Louie,

The Intense's RG is almost 2.60. How much higher do you need?

The orginal Inferno and the Ultimate are very low, true.
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Re: Activator coverstock
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2004, 06:43:41 PM »
I could try an intense, but why should I? How would it be an improvement over the Blazing which I like very much? As for the origonal Inferno and the Danger zone, even with a very clean shell low rg stuff doesn't react well for me. I'm learning this the hard way through trial and error.
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charlest

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Re: Activator coverstock
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2004, 07:47:21 PM »
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I could try an intense, but why should I?


WHo knows?
But you're the one who said,
"I can't roll low rg balls as they all hook early and unpredictably for me."
So we were just telling you that the Intense is not a low RG ball. Hell's bells, man, it's your choice; we're not trying to convince you of anything; just answering your statement/question.

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Re: Activator coverstock
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2004, 08:39:09 PM »
Sorry if I sounded annoying. I drill up a lot of bowling balls for a non-tournament level bowler. I'm able to do this because I buy the balls off ebay for the most part. Most of my balls are under $100 drilled. My Blazing cost me about $90 drilled. I drilled my Blazing strong due to its low differential. If I got an Intense I'd drill it with a longer pin to pap because I don't need anything stronger than a Blazing for the wettest conditions I see. I'd probably end up with a ball a lot like my Blazing for about $180 drilled. I'd rather buy two balls from ebay for this same money to try out different cores and coverstocks. I apologize for not giving a better explanation earlier. While the Blazing was too weak for many bowlers, the high rg, low differential, and clean but strong and predictable coverstock are perfect for me. I don't see how anything in the same family could be any better.
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Re: Activator coverstock
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2004, 06:24:04 PM »
i have three balls with the activator reactive coverstock( inferno, zone classic, and ultimate inferno ). i have one ball with the activator particle coverstock ( raging inferno ). this is what i'm seeing: the inferno and the zone classic are pearls and are more skid-flip when polished and more arcing when smooth sanded. the ultimate inferno is smooth sanded and has a "hard arc" to it's roll. the raging inferno is very even arcing when dulled or smooth sanded. when both the ultimate inferno and raging inferno are smooth sanded 1,000 grit the raging inferno grabs the lane much earlier( due to the particle load ).