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Title: ai - rough buff?? translation
Post by: fishbowler on February 10, 2005, 05:30:44 AM
so what is the approx. grit level??  is this ball just an oi core with ui cover rough buffed??
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Title: Re: ai - rough buff?? translation
Post by: BrunsNick on February 10, 2005, 01:39:45 PM
No, it has Activator+, from the Intense Inferno.

Rough buff, my best translation is they took the ball from 400 grit to polish in one step, using a single buff. I think I remember hearing that they are usually double buffed for more shine, like the Bruiser, Intense, etc.
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Title: Re: ai - rough buff?? translation
Post by: Jeffrevs on February 10, 2005, 02:02:00 PM
Nick...what is the difference between from activator and activator + ??
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Title: Re: ai - rough buff?? translation
Post by: a_ak57 on February 10, 2005, 02:05:12 PM
The Plus is longer and sharper than the original.
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Title: Re: ai - rough buff?? translation
Post by: Strapper_Squared on February 10, 2005, 02:05:14 PM
I think the "+" is supposed to be just a little stronger... but retain most of the same characteristics...

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Title: Re: ai - rough buff?? translation
Post by: RSalas on February 10, 2005, 02:12:56 PM
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Rough buff, my best translation is they took the ball from 400 grit to polish in one step, using a single buff. I think I remember hearing that they are usually double buffed for more shine, like the Bruiser, Intense, etc.


Well, according to the "Brunswick 2004-2005 Ball Lineup" insert that was in BTM a while back, the High Gloss Polish finish is achieved by "even(ly) wet sand(ing) to a 400-grit finish then apply Brunswick's Factory Finish High Gloss Polish."

So, are you saying that the rough buff involves a single coat of polish, while the high gloss uses two?
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Title: Re: ai - rough buff?? translation
Post by: J_Mac on February 10, 2005, 02:13:04 PM
Brunswick now has a Rough Buff polish on their website to restore this matte/sheen surface.
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Title: Re: ai - rough buff?? translation
Post by: BrunsNick on February 10, 2005, 02:26:37 PM
Activator+ is actually more stuck to the lane than Activator.

I wasn't aware that Brunswick had a rough buff polish, but I may want to pick up a qt. if our dist. has them. I'm sure you can achieve the same effect by setting the ball spinner to the lower speed.
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Title: Re: ai - rough buff?? translation
Post by: Jeffrevs on February 10, 2005, 02:29:50 PM
thanks Nick...so the Intense gets its length from the core not the cover, because...the II is longer than the AI, yes, and both have Act + .....so the higher RG in the II gets it it's length so-to-speak?
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Title: Re: ai - rough buff?? translation
Post by: BrunsNick on February 10, 2005, 02:31:13 PM
Bingo!

Amazing what stronger guts does to a ball, huh!
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Brunswick -=- PBA 03-05
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Title: Re: ai - rough buff?? translation
Post by: Jeffrevs on February 10, 2005, 02:33:44 PM
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Bingo!

Amazing what stronger guts does to a ball, huh!
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Brunswick -=- PBA 03-05
¡Viva la nación de Brunswick!


Yep! I know most reaction is coverstock, but you have to look at the core in situations like this !

So the AI is the best OVERALL ball in the B line-up, yes ?
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Title: Re: ai - rough buff?? translation
Post by: BrunsNick on February 10, 2005, 02:44:01 PM
I think with some surface prep, the Absolute can be used on pretty much ANY condition. I will be drilling my 2nd today with appx a 5x3 with an x-hole, and buff a little higher for length.
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Brunswick -=- PBA 03-05
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Title: Re: ai - rough buff?? translation
Post by: Jeffrevs on February 10, 2005, 02:52:47 PM
quote:
The Activator+ is cleaner through the front and more angular then the Original Activator.
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OK, what is it ? cleaner and more angular, or more "stuck" to the lane, like Nick says
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Title: Re: ai - rough buff?? translation
Post by: RSalas on February 10, 2005, 02:57:47 PM
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So the AI is the best OVERALL ball in the B line-up, yes ?


From where I sit, the Nemesis is the best *overall* ball in the Brunswick line, with the Zone Classic is a close second.

I've seen a number of bowlers throw the Absolute, and it's looking more and more like a ball that fits a specific niche.
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Title: Re: ai - rough buff?? translation
Post by: RSalas on February 10, 2005, 03:00:20 PM
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OK, what is it ? cleaner and more angular, or more "stuck" to the lane, like Nick says


IME Activator+ is cleaner and more angular than Activator.

That "stuck to the lane" thing comes straight off of the Intense Inferno drill sheet;  none of the pro shop guys that I know can explain this to my satisfaction.
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"Dispensing conventional wisdom to a fingertip world."

Horrid in Doubles, torrid in Singles...
...that's The Curse of Dusty.
Title: Re: ai - rough buff?? translation
Post by: BrunsNick on February 10, 2005, 03:03:53 PM
"Stuck to the lane" is the opposite of "squirty", without the ball jumping of course. Comes with a cover/core match that allows such a look on the lanes.
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Brunswick -=- PBA 03-05
¡Viva la nación de Brunswick!
Title: Re: ai - rough buff?? translation
Post by: Jeffrevs on February 11, 2005, 11:33:55 AM
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"Stuck to the lane" is the opposite of "squirty", without the ball jumping of course. Comes with a cover/core match that allows such a look on the lanes.
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Brunswick -=- PBA 03-05
¡Viva la nación de Brunswick!


...which the AI gives you w/ it's Act+ and core combo?!
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"what, by the time I get back..they won't be dead anymore ?.