a few went for that price, i happend to be one of them. that chat thing is cool. never done that before. but for everyone else it was used on a fresh house shot with flyin backends. synthetic heads than wood. the line was 17 at the arrows and about 8 at the breakpoint. strong move on the backend. as a comparison my red zone drilled 4 1/2" ptp, psa 65 degrees, gets almost same length, but not as strong on the back, would have to move right with this ball on same shot