Post by: Juggernaut on February 06, 2005, 05:32:22 AM
But why not? If you can't beat them, JOIN THEM,/ (or maybe you LIKE being cannon fodder?)
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Brunswick will soon own the world.
You must face it.
There is no escape.
Post by: a_ak57 on February 06, 2005, 01:33:11 PM
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- Andy
Brunswick..........'Nuff said.
Like quantums? LIke activator? Check this (http://"http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=73593&ForumID=2&CategoryID=2") out!
Post by: TJFreaky24 on February 06, 2005, 01:35:09 PM
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I am the best kept secret....
Redemption is coming!
Post by: Juggernaut on February 06, 2005, 01:38:30 PM
No, Duke isn't on staff, he can throw ANYDAMN THING HE WANTS, and he damnsure didn't throw a track, columbia, ebonite, dynothane, hammer, etc... did he?
P.S. Mr. 40 title W.R.W. did throw track. Needless to say, he is STILL at 40 titles. Ryan threw a storm. How does it feel to be second?
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Brunswick will soon own the world.
You must face it.
There is no escape.
Edited on 2/6/2005 2:37 PM
Post by: seadrive on February 06, 2005, 01:40:59 PM
Impressive performance by one of the best to ever shoe up...
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seadrive
Cogito ergo bowl
Post by: TJFreaky24 on February 06, 2005, 01:42:57 PM
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Didn't take the green eyed monster long to pop up here!
No, Duke isn't on staff, he can throw ANYDAMN THING HE WANTS, and he damnsure didn't throw a track, columbia, ebonite, dynothane, hammer, etc... did he?
P.S. Mr. 40 title W.R.W. did throw track. Needless to say, he is STILL at 40 titles. Ryan threw a storm. How does it feel to be second?
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Brunswick will soon own the world.
You must face it.
There is no escape.
Edited on 2/6/2005 2:37 PM
LOL, green eyed monster? Just saying you guys brag about the success a lot thats all. Nowhere in my post did I mention anything to do with Track. Just because I throw track doesn't mean everyone should. Nowhere did I say that. How does it feel to look stupid?
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I am the best kept secret....
Redemption is coming!
Post by: TJFreaky24 on February 06, 2005, 01:45:30 PM
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I'm not a member of The Nation, but if Norm Duke says that his equipment made the difference this week (and he did), I'd listen.
Impressive performance by one of the best to ever shoe up...
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seadrive
Cogito ergo bowl
I agree. Duke did a great job, and is a great bowler. I give him a lot of credit. I don't give Brunswick the credit sorry. I know you guys don't like hearing it. He may or may not have done the same thing with AMF or anybody else. He's a great bowler. Hats off to him for a great performance today NO MATTER WHAT HE THREW!
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I am the best kept secret....
Redemption is coming!
Post by: Juggernaut on February 06, 2005, 01:51:04 PM
You may not give brunswick the credit, but Mr. Duke did.
Yes, Mr.Duke is a formiddable talent, and might have won with anything, so ask yourself, WHY, (IF IT MADE NO DIFFERENCE), DID HE CHOOSE BRUNSWICK?
Deny it if you want, as long as you want, but if you ain't throwing brunswick, right now you are at a serious dis-advantage.
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Brunswick will soon own the world.
You must face it.
There is no escape.
Post by: BrunsNick on February 06, 2005, 01:53:51 PM
"If ya ain't throwin Brunswick, ya ain't maximizing your capabilities!"
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Nick Smith ... A.K.A. Les Badderâ„¢
Brunswick -=- PBA 03-05
¡Viva la nación de Brunswick!
Post by: TJFreaky24 on February 06, 2005, 02:00:54 PM
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TJ,
You may not give brunswick the credit, but Mr. Duke did.
Yes, Mr.Duke is a formiddable talent, and might have won with anything, so ask yourself, WHY, (IF IT MADE NO DIFFERENCE), DID HE CHOOSE BRUNSWICK?
Deny it if you want, as long as you want, but if you ain't throwing brunswick, right now you are at a serious dis-advantage.
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Brunswick will soon own the world.
You must face it.
There is no escape.
The fact that I'm at a disadvantage because I don't throw brunswick is just ludicrous. I'm a firm believer in the bowler, not the ball. Furthermore, I'd like to say again I'm not against Brunswick. I am gonna throw the stuff which fits best for me. Right now, I like Track. That's my opinion. I'm entitled to my opinions as are you, but I am at no disatvantage because of what I throw. To say such a thing is foolish.
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I am the best kept secret....
Redemption is coming!
Post by: Juggernaut on February 06, 2005, 02:13:46 PM
Yes, TJ, you are entitled to your opinion, everyone is. I hope your opinion never changes. I used to throw some track, and really liked the mutant, but for me nothing, absolutely NOTHING, has matched up for me like the latest releases from brunswick.
My average has never been higher, I've never won so many pots, never placed in the money in so many tournaments, and never kicked as many butts as I have since I went back to the big "B".
As an example, I will use my leagues. I was averaging 210-215 on the two leagues I am bowling in, with a high series of 740. In the last month I have averaged over 238 in both of them, with three series(774,767,746) over anything I have shot previously this year and nothing has changed except for my equipment.
It has been more readable, predictable, and reliable than anything I have EVER thrown ( except for a pink hammer I had back in the day )!
No, TJ, I bear you no ill will, just in my heart I know nothing can compete on an even keel with brunswick right now. I am in no way trying to "diss" anyone's ball company of preference, just haven't ever seen anything like the activator covers and what they are capable of.
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Brunswick will soon own the world.
You must face it.
There is no escape.
Post by: a_ak57 on February 06, 2005, 03:01:23 PM
We're not just excited because some guy with a brunswick ball won, but it's because he used the brand spankin new absolute and made it look like TBU's magic orb.
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- Andy
Brunswick..........'Nuff said.
Like quantums? LIke activator? Check this (http://"http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=73593&ForumID=2&CategoryID=2") out!
Edited on 2/6/2005 4:02 PM
Post by: sdbowler on February 06, 2005, 04:47:34 PM
While I was in Birmingham last week, I overheard a ball rep for a company saying that some of his staff wanted to try the Absolute Inferno. His way of thinking was if they want to try it to see if it is the ball or them that makes the difference let them try it. With that being said and now Duke and Monecelli left the Columbia family and both used Brunswick this week what does that say about just that one ball? To me it says a lot. For Track to loose someone who has been on their staff for years is HUGE. To say that Brunswick is not on a huge high right now after having a former AMF staffer use their equipment and win the first time out says a lot for the current line up.
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Post by: TJFreaky24 on February 07, 2005, 06:56:37 AM
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Hmm, odd. I have noticed that TJ never posts anything derogatory about when someone wins with any other company besides brunswick and their followers rejoice. Sounds to me like we just have someone who hates brunswick and has to find every way possible to demean them...Kind of like Dr. Rev and his hate for PA, barnes and the others.
We're not just excited because some guy with a brunswick ball won, but it's because he used the brand spankin new absolute and made it look like TBU's magic orb.
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- Andy
Brunswick..........'Nuff said.
Like quantums? LIke activator? Check this (http://"http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?
TopicID=73593&ForumID=2&CategoryID=2") out!
How many times must I say I don't hate Brunswick. I just find it humorous that you guys all get excited and make 10 different posts about the winner of the show when it's a guy throwing Brunswick. Now, as far as other people doing it...how many posts were there about PA the last few weeks with his Hammer stuff? Not many that I recall. Surly not 8-10. Not trying to offend anyone. The original statement was a joke, but from now on I'll just sit back and laugh, because obviously nobody seems to see the point in my posts.
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I am the best kept secret....
Redemption is coming!
Edited on 2/7/2005 7:54 AM
Post by: hookem on February 07, 2005, 07:16:11 AM
Post by: LuckyLefty on February 07, 2005, 08:04:11 AM
Is it maybe unfair that Brunswick is now oiling the tour condition?
Naturally Brunswick balls tested on brunswick synthetics and with Brunswick oils are probably going to end up being the perfect fit.
I've always been a big fan of Brunswick but last year on tour(kegel oil) if you didn't use storm you were at a disadvantage. This year if you are not using a version of activator coverstock or powerkoil it appears you are at a disadvantage.
These coverstocks are available from 3 companies Brunswick, Lane#1 and Morich.
REgards,
Luckylefty
PS it appears Brunswick oil is more viscous and that clean thru the heads is not as important as the ability to hook a little in the oil to control the move out in to the dry.
PPS one can only remember how mediocre the Infernos looked last year on kegel oil in Chris Barnes and Parker's hands and how great they now look in everyones hands. Different oil me thinks.
Post by: seadrive on February 07, 2005, 09:13:30 AM
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PPS one can only remember how mediocre the Infernos looked last year on kegel oil in Chris Barnes and Parker's hands and how great they now look in everyones hands. Different oil me thinks.
Yeah, but the Inferno looked pretty good in Brad Angelo's hands last year.
And didn't a guy who's pushing 50 win the World Championship last year with an Inferno?
On the THS, it really doesn't matter, and anyone who dumps all his current stuff to join The Nation is a bit of a fool, IMHO.
But on the PBA shots, with the Big B oil, you can't argue with success. Perhaps it's not a coincidence that everyone and his brother on tour is now throwing Brunswick, including Norm Duke, who knows a thing or three about bowling.
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seadrive
Cogito ergo bowl
Post by: TJFreaky24 on February 07, 2005, 10:52:10 AM
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Fools go where brave men fear to tread!
Yes, TJ, you are entitled to your opinion, everyone is. I hope your opinion never changes. I used to throw some track, and really liked the mutant, but for me nothing, absolutely NOTHING, has matched up for me like the latest releases from brunswick.
My average has never been higher, I've never won so many pots, never placed in the money in so many tournaments, and never kicked as many butts as I have since I went back to the big "B".
As an example, I will use my leagues. I was averaging 210-215 on the two leagues I am bowling in, with a high series of 740. In the last month I have averaged over 238 in both of them, with three series(774,767,746) over anything I have shot previously this year and nothing has changed except for my equipment.
It has been more readable, predictable, and reliable than anything I have EVER thrown ( except for a pink hammer I had back in the day )!
No, TJ, I bear you no ill will, just in my heart I know nothing can compete on an even keel with brunswick right now. I am in no way trying to "diss" anyone's ball company of preference, just haven't ever seen anything like the activator covers and what they are capable of.
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Brunswick will soon own the world.
You must face it.
There is no escape.
So many people could say the same things of their fave company. I've never shot higher than I am shooting right now with my Hexplosion. Shot my first 700 this past week with it. That doesn't mean that it's a superior product to anything anyone else makes. Just fits me better. You say your heart tells you nothing is better than Big B...but what about your head. Does that take any consideration? I mean, have you thrown every ball by every single company that allows you to say it's the best there is and your disatvantaged because you don't throw it?. Is someone who averages a 120, a better bowler than me who carries about a 180, just because he throws the Absolute Inferno? Of course not. So why should this be the Xception
P.S. I mean you no harm Slinger,and I don't mean to single you out, but you seem to be the one at odds most with what i'm saying. i'm glad you like Brunswick products and hope they continue to work for you, but you are in no position to tell people that they should be throwing it because it's better. That's your opinion and shouldn't be forced on other people.
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I am the best kept secret....
Redemption is coming!
Edited on 2/7/2005 11:51 AM
Post by: LuckyLefty on February 08, 2005, 06:22:46 AM
It only makes sense.
REgards,
LUckylefty
Post by: Juggernaut on February 08, 2005, 10:24:10 PM
P.S. I mean you no harm Slinger,and I don't mean to single you out, but you seem to be the one at odds most with what i'm saying. i'm glad you like Brunswick products and hope they continue to work for you, but you are in no position to tell people that they should be throwing it because it's better. That's your opinion and shouldn't be forced on other people.
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I am the best kept secret....
Redemption is coming!
Edited on 2/7/2005 11:51 AM[/quote]
Yes Tj, that is my opinion, but my opinion isn't something that I just grabbed out of my butt either.
I have been bowling since 1980 on a steady basis. I have worked in and around bowling centers for years. I worked in a pro shop for 7 years, drilling and throwing most everybodies stuff.
In the last 5 years, I have owned and thrown more balls than most of the guys here, except for those with sponsors or shops of their own, have ever hoped to try. And from almost every manufacturer of note.
My opinion is not being "forced" on anyone, but it is a very knowledgable opinion. One based on practical experience of having been there, done that, Not just the emotional ramblings of some "NEWBIE" who thinks that his ball is great cause it " HOOKS 20 BOARDS", or "HITS LIKE A BOMB!"
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Brunswick will soon own the world.
You must face it.
There is no escape.
Edited on 2/8/2005 11:21 PM