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kingpin268

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Once again, Big B amazes me:(
« on: December 11, 2005, 06:26:57 AM »
Alright, we'll start off my saying that in league my Absolute matches up very well with the condition as did my Ultimate Inferno. However, in the tournaments when they put down a bit more oil, my Ultimate was skid, skid, skid, huge backend turn but in league the ball was smooth and powerful. I think it was just a bit too much oil and the UI was drilled to weak but that's not what is bothering me.

In league, my AI has a nice strong arc motion and not once have I seen this baby not hook when there's enough oil present. Drier days, the ball burns up. My dilemma: on wood lanes, and I've noticed this in two different houses, my Absolute doesn't do squat. I cant' understand it. It's definately not burning up, as my Apex Obsession is getting down the lane fine. After 3 games with the Apex, the shot was startin to get drier and I thought, OK I'll whip out the Absolute, a weaker ball, and play the same line. Nadda. This ball skidded all the way down the lane and barely turned. My Hybrid DirtyBomb, a step down from the Absolute, was hooking the whole lane. The Apex was starting to burn up and a step down from it, doesn't react at all. Yet a step down from the step down, covers the whole lane. I'm lost and if anyone could help me out here it would be greatly appreciated.

My question is, if that last part got confusing: Why doesn't my Absolute like wooden lanes? It just doesn't hook on them at all. Synthetic is fine but wooden...not so good.
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Re: Once again, Big B amazes me:(
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2005, 02:44:50 PM »
kingpin,

I understand your dilemma.  I bowled in a synthetic and a wood house last year and even though the patterns were similar and they both used the same oil (prodigy), they played very different.  In wood houses, most places have to use more units of oil to counteract the softness of the lane surface.  From what I have heard on a scale of 1-100 (1-softest, 100-hardest), wood ranks around 18 and synthetic is up near 85.  The wood house I bowled at last year was putting around 80-90 units in the middle going 42 feet.  Synthetic houses use maybe 1/3 to 1/2 that amount.  In your case, is it the same oil pattern, same oil used, and same length?  All of these factors can come into play.  In my case last year. I used pearl reactives in the synthetic house and a dull particle ball in the wood house.  Check out those factors I mentioned and it should help better understand what is going on with your difference in ball reaction. To anybody else, is there anything else I have missed?
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Re: Once again, Big B amazes me:(
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2005, 03:03:36 PM »
My Apex Obsession was over hooking and I made a big jump left. And when the AO started checking up too early there I figured it'd be dry enough on the track to bounce the Absolute off of. Not so. Last saturday in league it was a bit drier than normal and I could definatley see the Absolute burning up yet today nothing. I see the ball just skidding and skidding.

Toward the end of the tournament, my Apex was definatley burning up so shouldn't the Absolute hook more? If your abiding by a weaker ball should hook more than stronger when it starts burning up. And I couldn't agree more with you there but the Apex hooked less and less so the Absolute should be hooking more than it but went  straight. And I've noticed this is two wooden houses.
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Re: Once again, Big B amazes me:(
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2005, 03:49:29 PM »
It is by no means . That thing is a monster on our synthetic house yet doesn't move on wood. I can't understand it. My friend, Loudstriker got his Absolute to move and pretty strong at that.

A stronger ball, the Apex moved more than the Absolute and the ball weaker than the AI, the HDB moved much more than it. Anyone else have this problem?
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Re: Once again, Big B amazes me:(
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2005, 04:50:22 PM »
I have to agree, this was very wierd. I was throwing my Absolute and it was hooking many boards towards the end. I moved in right a little and threw Kingpins's Absolute and it just skid all the way down and at the very end practically at the pins it hooked very little. And by no means is his ball dead. It is a beast on synthetic.
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Re: Once again, Big B amazes me:(
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2005, 05:10:55 PM »
i have the same type of problem on wood, the intense, orignal, and ultimate infernos just wouldent hook up. the only ball that could nock down the pins was the wmb, but that was to heavy(16) so i couldent throw it right, then i bought the absolute and it all changed. i cant speak for yours but mine is an absolute animal, man i love that ball.

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Re: Once again, Big B amazes me:(
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2005, 06:18:28 PM »
There was probably a good bit of carrydown.  Judging from both yours and Loud's profiles, your absolute is drilled for some good length.  His is drilled to roll early.  So is your HDB.  Even if your AI normally makes a stronger move than the HDB, there was probably too much carrydown and that layout didn't allow it to pick up it's roll soon enough and take off.  Especially compared to Loud's AI.
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Re: Once again, Big B amazes me:(
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2005, 06:54:48 PM »
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There was probably a good bit of carrydown.  Judging from both yours and Loud's profiles, your absolute is drilled for some good length.  His is drilled to roll early.  So is your HDB.  Even if your AI normally makes a stronger move than the HDB, there was probably too much carrydown and that layout didn't allow it to pick up it's roll soon enough and take off.  Especially compared to Loud's AI.
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I understand your point but we moved to a fresh pair of lanes, just the two of us and it was the same thing. There wasn't any carry down because my Blazing Inferno hooked a little bit at the end. Even when he first threw the Absolute it never hooked.
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Re: Once again, Big B amazes me:(
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2005, 06:59:38 PM »
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There was probably a good bit of carrydown.  Judging from both yours and Loud's profiles, your absolute is drilled for some good length.  His is drilled to roll early.  So is your HDB.  Even if your AI normally makes a stronger move than the HDB, there was probably too much carrydown and that layout didn't allow it to pick up it's roll soon enough and take off.  Especially compared to Loud's AI.
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I understand your point but we moved to a fresh pair of lanes, just the two of us and it was the same thing. There wasn't any carry down because my Blazing Inferno hooked a little bit at the end. Even when he first threw the Absolute it never hooked.
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Edited on 12/11/2005 7:45 PM

Hmm.  Well that's just odd then.  I have no idea.
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Re: Once again, Big B amazes me:(
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2005, 07:05:08 PM »
All my other balls react as if normal or on synthetic lanes. Yet the only ball that doesn't is the Absolute. I'm perplexed but I guess it's strictly a synthetic lane ball.
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