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Arsenal Help (New to Brunswick)
« on: July 24, 2007, 04:36:39 AM »
I'm looking for a little help with my arsenal. I haven't thrown a Brunswick ball since the first Pro Active Zone. I drilled a Total Inferno last month and didn't really like it until I polished it. Now I can't put it down. I'm going to drill a Radical, Fury and a Punisher this week.

What I need to know is should I drill a Strike Zone or a Ultimate Inferno to go between the Fury and the Total? Also should I drill a Power Groove Pearl or a Monster Slay/R to go under the Punisher?

Thanks in advance for your help,
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Re: Arsenal Help (New to Brunswick)
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2007, 12:47:08 PM »
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I'm looking for a little help with my arsenal. I haven't thrown a Brunswick ball since the first Pro Active Zone. I drilled a Total Inferno last month and didn't really like it until I polished it. Now I can't put it down. I'm going to drill a Radical, Fury and a Punisher this week.

What I need to know is should I drill a Strike Zone or a Ultimate Inferno to go between the Fury and the Total? Also should I drill a Power Groove Pearl or a Monster Slay/R to go under the Punisher?


If this is for just a typical house shot, you dont need all of the surface of the Fury AND Total Inferno AND Strike Zone.

Just go:

Total Inferno
Red Zone
Punisher
Plastic Spare Ball

If its for a different lane condition than a house shot, please include it.
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Re: Arsenal Help (New to Brunswick)
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2007, 12:51:00 PM »
I'm a serious tournament bowler. I bowl on many surfaces and lane conditions as well as the PBA Experience league. I need a well rounded arsenal to be prepared for everything.

Thank you for responding.
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Re: Arsenal Help (New to Brunswick)
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2007, 01:14:30 PM »
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I'm a serious tournament bowler. I bowl on many surfaces and lane conditions as well as the PBA Experience league. I need a well rounded arsenal to be prepared for everything.


Now we're talkin'

every serious arsenal should have the predictibility of the Absolute Inferno.
I use it on my PBA Experience League shots, and it gives me the best read out of any ball I own, and matches up on 3 of the 5 patterns great, Scorpion/Viper/Chameleon.

Total Inferno for shark, great high surface ball for longer stuff.

See if you can grab an Original Inferno from www.cheapbowlingballs.com.

Great price and a legendary ball. That should matchup well on the Cheetah + THS.

Low Pin/Short Pin layout Smokin Inferno for spotty heads. I'm still not sold on the Radical for everyone, the Smokin seemed to be a great ball that matched up well with most styles.

Ambush/Sidewinder for lighter oil with a little carry down.

Not much else except a spare ball, which im sure you already have.
You could substitute the Red Zone for Original Inferno and/or Vapor Zone for Absolute Inferno if that suits your needs of a asymmetric ball in your lineup.
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Re: Arsenal Help (New to Brunswick)
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2007, 01:17:50 PM »
I believe the remake Infernos are still around too. And from what I hear the reaction is just like the old one. I have one NIB and the only big difference visually is the bigger Activator logo and the moved serial number.

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Re: Arsenal Help (New to Brunswick)
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2007, 01:44:07 PM »
I would wait for the Blast Zone instead of drilling up the Strike Zone. If you like your Total shiny, then A OOB Fury would be a good fit.

The new Avalanche will be a better fit than the Power Groove for a ball to go under the Punisher.
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Re: Arsenal Help (New to Brunswick)
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2007, 01:57:11 PM »
Thanks to all for the great suggestions. Please, keep them coming.

Corey C, Why is The Blast Zone is a good fit under the Fury? Just want to get an idea how different it is from the Fury and the Total.
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Edited on 7/24/2007 1:58 PM
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Re: Arsenal Help (New to Brunswick)
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2007, 08:59:11 PM »
1)The Blast Zone comes with a 800 wet sand finish with a combo pearl/solid original Activator, where the Fury and Total have Octane. It's not going to be quite as strong up front as both of the above.
2) The Blast Zone is asymetrical vs the Fury and Total being symetrical. You can take advantage of the MB to set up the reaction you want.

I drilled mine today and I'll throw it tomorrow. I'll post a review tomorrow as well.

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Re: Arsenal Help (New to Brunswick)
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2007, 09:57:52 PM »
I agree with Corey Clayton that the Blast Zone would give you a different look.  The hybrid cover is clean through the heads, so the ball saves everything for the mid-lane and late movement.  The box finish is quite good, also.



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Re: Arsenal Help (New to Brunswick)
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2007, 10:42:27 PM »
if you are a serious tournament bowler and you participate in a pba experience league one of the most important things to consider is the surface preparation on any and all of these pieces of equipment. without the proper surface on the ball to matchup on the lane condition you'll be hard pressed to do as well as you could.

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Re: Arsenal Help (New to Brunswick)
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2007, 01:43:18 AM »
I do try many surfaces (Hence the high polished cover on the Total). I will try a few things before I come to a conclusion a ball is not going to work for me. What I'm looking for is reaction intent with the different cores and covers.
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Re: Arsenal Help (New to Brunswick)
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2007, 06:54:10 AM »
if you want to start trying surfaces, get started with this:

Burgandy Scotch Brite: 320 Grit
Green Scotch Brite: 600 Grit
Gray Scotch Brite: 800 Grit
White Scotch Brite: 1000 Grit
Btunswick Rough Buff: ~1000 Grit Finish
3M Rubbing Compound: 1500 Grit Finish
Brunswick High Gloss Polish: 2000 Grit Finish

with a combination of base grit and finish, you can achieve close to any look you want.
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Re: Arsenal Help (New to Brunswick)
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2007, 09:38:58 AM »
I'd assume that MegaMav is talking about the finishes in terms of the brunswick finishes.  In that case when he says rough buff, he means 220 grit + rough buff, and when he says high gloss, he means 400 grit + high gloss factory finish.  Compounds are very versitile in that manner, whatever you put the finish on will determine the ammount of shine.

As far as the ball question, I personally don't construct an arsenal soley in terms of volume handleing capability, rather I look at breakpoint shapes and try to match that up to the pattern.  Thus, while the Blast Zone and Fury will be rather close as far as overall hook, I'd still opt to get them both rather than something that is less but has a very similar breakpoint shape.  The Fury being so even rolling will allow you to combat wet dry conditions and play up the lane on heavier shots.  The Blast will allow you to get inside and weel the lane a bit.  Moreover if the backends are tight, you can use this to power through the backends without carry suffering.

I'd go with:
Fury - Heavy / rolly

Blast zone - Heavy / strong arc maybe even a bit flippy

Total - MedHvy / strong arc

Red - Medium / strong arc - flippy (This is the most versitile piece in their current lineup.  You can have it close to as strong as the blast with some surface and a lower pin, but it can fit here with the oob finish and a higher pin.  It think that it is a must in any Big B arsenal)

Rampage - Medium to slightly lighter / flippy

Power Groove / Avalanche? - I really don't like their offerings in the light category.  I have seen very little from the punisher, I'd think about perhaps the avalanche series.  lighter / flippy
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Re: Arsenal Help (New to Brunswick)
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2007, 11:51:30 AM »
Thanks everyone!

BallsDeep, Love the idea of the Blast Zone/Fury combo. I was really thinking about drilling the Blast for more flip and finish. I've seen a few people roll the Fury and the strong even arc looks great for control on rough lanes. I wouldn't want to screw that up by using a flippy drill pattern. How does the Mammoth roll compared to the Fury?

I have not seen one person use the Red Zone so I was not familiar with it's characteristics. I'll look into this as a compliment to the Total in the middle of the arsenal. I have a Radical that I really like but I didn't drill it to take advantage of the balls characteristics. I have another undrilled Radical that I'm going to try in this spot.

I've seen many people roll the Rampage and it always looks good going down the lane and getting to the pocket but it doesn't seem to carry very well. That's just my observation from seeing 6 or 7 people (right and left handed) use this ball in different areas on different conditions. This ball scares me.

Thank you all for your suggestions,
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Edited on 7/25/2007 12:00 PM
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Re: Arsenal Help (New to Brunswick)
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2007, 11:54:09 AM »
I'm shocked the Absolute Inferno isnt considered here.